Why would you Oppose a wall on our Border? Lets find out.

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    That's not a serious comment. Just because a person decides Trump is a proven idiot and actual sides with the majority of the GOP who also think 5 billion dedicated to a stupid wall is bogus, makes no one for open borders.
     
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    You aren't serious if you think border patrol is for Trumps wall. The original budget passed by everyone was sanctioned by the border patrol throughh home land land security. This is about Trump and no one else. He's off his rocker .
     
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    I ****ing quoted you dude... And what I said was quite clear to anyone that can read.

    Do try and keep up, you're embarrassing yourself.
     
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    Considering the NRA is deeply involved with Russian money laundering, it’s not as obvious as it used to be. You know those Putin affiliated Russian “bankers” so called. One call to Valdimire and your troubles are behind you.
     
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    Why is it obvious that it wasn't an emergency?

    It is more important that more are stopped from coming in.

    And these people can claim asylum at a port of entry can't they? What's stopping them?
     
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    Sorry, do you not consider rapists to be human waste? What does "rapist" have to do with "Mexican?" YOU'RE the one making the connection, not me!
     
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    Unfortunately not much can be done to stop the "good old American boys." Rape will always happen. However, IF it got to the stage where the border became so secure where nobody made the trip any more, this would stop the rape of women and children on the crossing journey. Something CAN be done about THIS type of rape. And if the border can be made more secure, this rape can at least be REDUCED!
     
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    You dodged my question, "are they ALL NEEDY?" You're for open borders aren't you? Be honest!
     
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    So EVERYONE trying to cross the border needs aid?

    What does US Code call someone who is in the country illegally? I imagine that this question might make you rather uncomfortable, so I won't be surprised if you dodge it!

    Name just ONE single example of something that they are "ready" to do.
     
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    Do you have a source which demonstrates this?

    "Programs?"
     
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    Oh you mean how Trump armed the Ukrainian's and has taken other actions against him and been altogether VERY tough on him? Yeah, they're BEST BUDDIES! :roflol:

    Yes I do. Do you have to DODGE? It seems that way. Just tell me ONE SINGLE racist thing that Trump has said during his presidency, other than saying that some Mexican's are rapists. (which isn't actually racist.)
     
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    Yeah, I've said so before. I'm also for legalizing most drugs

    That being said it does not follow that I'm for illegal immigration or illegal drugs or illegal anything. I'm arguing that a wall won't work as it is planned to and is an expensive boondoggle. A flat out gift to Trump's cronies when we need to spend every cent we can on our infrastructure.
     
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    And besides that, the difference is? What's stupid as far as I can see is the idea that it makes a big difference as to what side of the wall the people who want to get over it are coming from
     
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    Those that work on the border dissagree with you. Do you think you know more than they do about the situation?
     
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    All SANCTIONED by the NRA? Surely you can't be serious!
     
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    Not sanctioned but discussed and planned. Communist cells didn't even know who was in most other cells but they bombed the Tsarists out of existence anyhow
     
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    Despite the hyper-partisan bleating, it may be conservatives that biff-slap the cry baby and restore a modicum of sense to US immigration policy.

    BACKGROUND

    A reality tv performer with no experience or expertise in border security whatsoever flogged a “big, beautiful wall!” that he would make Mexico pay for as a campaign gimmick to wee wee up the mob at his pep rallies. “Build a wall! Build a wall!” they were encouraged to shriek.

    Then, for two years, a Republican controlled Congress refused to give him the $5.7 billion for his campaign hype that most Americans do not want.​

    After brooding for two years, he threw a tantrum and proclaimed that he was “proud” to shut down the government if he did not get his way - an act of petulance of which most Americans also disapprove.

    As the Trump Justice Department’s own Republican Special Counsel unravels Trump’s minions' covert entanglements with Putin’s, as Putin conspired to pervert a US presidential election by helping Trump, it is again conservatives determined to vanquish the noxious Trumpery that has befouled the GOP.

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    I am proud to shut down the government for border security!
    I will take the mantle!
    I will be the one to shut it down!
    I’m not going to blame you for it!”

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    Most rapists are Americans ...Trump has use that to scare the gullible. It’s a guy thing so maybe we should just let women and children in
     
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    My goodness. You people don’t even realize that people who are on welfare worked damn hard but can’t make ends meet the bigotry against the poor is apalling that you assume their work ethic is poor
     
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    Republicans had the house and senate!
     
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    If someone on welfare has kids, then THAT was a decisions they made, so it doesn't matter how hard they worked. They were irresponsible and brought it on themselves.
    If someone on welfare isn't college educated and doesn't have the skills to qualify for anything other than minimum wage, then it doesn't matter how hard working they claim to be. They made terrible decisions which led to them being mostly unemployable, which is again, their fault.

    Obviously some on welfare are inflicted with circumstances completely out of their control, but MOST are there because of bad decisions they made. Many having children before having their life together. Many doing badly in school making them unemployable. Many getting in trouble with the law, making them unemployable. Part of work ethic is responsibility and you'll be VERY hard pressed to find many on welfare that are actually responsible people. The VAST majority made a sequence of bad decisions that have led them to the life they have. An amazing work ethic will actually blow the doors open and lead to better opportunities than minimum wage. Thats a fact. Nobody with an amazing work ethic can logically be stuck in a minimum wage job. It goes against all logic and real world scenarios.
     
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    Yes people have made bad decisions. So do you think we should punish the children for that? Some people don’t have skills they wish they had. Why instead don’t you argue that we raise the minimum-wage? Then you won’t have as many people on welfare.And I love the way you blame them for not going to college. My granddaughter’s college tuition will be over $60,000. She is lucky we set up college fund for her. College should be free if you are qualified
     
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    One wonders why the fanatical Where's Wall? obsessives expect a Republican-controlled Senate and Democratically-controlled House to suddenly give Trump $5.7 billion for his wall that he repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for and that most Americans still do not want, after a Republican-controlled Senate and Republican-controlled House would not pander to his fixation for two years!

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