AOC is socialist. Is that bad?

he's right, she is in effect a communist. When socialism fails as it always has the reaction is to turn to communism not socialism.

Our govt just went from 2 to $5 trillion, a liberals wet dream. It didn't work and now all the Democrats want a giant step up to socialism, and then to communism. 1+1=2

 

why not ship 10 or 20 million illegals home and watch wages for real Americans soar??

 

We don't need a Nazi telling us how to live our lives. Under capitalism more money means more jobs, more great products, and a higher standard of living. This is how we got from the stone age to here. Do you understand?

 

Total 100% ignorance of course. Jobs Gates Brin Musk Bezos were not born rich. They had great ideas and were able to attract capital based on those great ideas!! Now you understand how capitalism works to raise everyone's standard of living.

 

so why not stop shipping their jobs offshore and inviting in 30 million illegals to take the remaining jobs?? 1+1=2
just because you were told to parrot what your handlers told you to does not mean you have to listen!! Do you really want to meet your maker as a liberal?

 

I applaud this idea. Good luck with your charity.

 

That was precisely my point! Clearly, California is not the place for those on very low incomes, yet the state is full of poor people complaining about the cost of housing. People on beer budgets, expecting champagne. You keep ignoring the human element (the primary element, in the First World). Why is that?

Meantime, it's not about 'bargains', it's about owning a property outright, thus freeing up future resources. It goes without saying, I would have thought, that if a family can secure an $8000 property via pooled resources, then those individuals will benefit enormously from not having any further rent or mortgage payments. They will also have stability, certainty, a boost to self-esteem, and motivation to work - to retain, maintain, and improve the property. If there is no work in the area, make some. Start an online business. Mow Lawns. Build a Coffee Cart. Walk dogs. Do letter box drops. Do ANYTHING you can to earn a dollar. Even the smallest towns offer the possibility of a modest income.

 

1) I am a Socialist/Communist. No clue why you thought I was a Capitalist.

2) The "system" has no idea what you do with your welfare dollars. Welfare recipients are perfectly entitled to buy a car, a house, an exotic breed of cat, or a pair of expensive shoes. The welfare system has no jurisdiction. Literally, none. And you cannot have your welfare cut because you own property, as long as that property is your primary residence. You need to learn more about the laws in this regard.

3) The cost of property in America is the lowest in the entire First World, with the possible exception of a few villages in the middle of Italy. Americans can buy houses in cities and big towns for as little as $5k. You can't even buy a two room shack in a one horse town in my country for less than $50k.

 

That's exactly my point. American capitalism has been hijacked & needs a redo.

 

I'm not pretending they're all bad, but their personal possession of so much of the national wealth makes less available for people like me & you to start any kind of competitive enterprise. What I'm saying is, they control the money, giving them undue power over us all. We need a system that doesn't just work for those already rich, but offers opportunity to anyone willing to pursue their dreams. American capitalism today doesn't do that.

 

Liberal taxes go more toward the wealthy, not average Americans. Liberal regulations are passed to protect public health, safety & prevent monopolies. Unions exist for the sole purpose of protecting worker's rights against employers who would abuse those rights. Trade deals simply reflect the political & business philosophy of those in power at the time. Trump is living proof of that. American jobs have been driven off shore by BOTH PARTIES over several decades, not just liberals. And, to repeat myself (because you do), there are not & never has been 30 million illegals living in the U.S. Trump is NO ANSWER to any of the issues facing America today. He's part of the problem.

 

As a voter comfortable with a blending of capitalism with socialism, I disagree. I'd be very uncomfortable even considering communism, which I find intolerable. You act as if your view is the ONLY way things go, but you're wrong. There are many successful Democratic Socialist countries in W Europe that consistently have their voters REJECT communist candidates for office there. Your thinking seems stuck in concrete with no flexibility for positive outcomes, but life isn't that way.

 

Both Presidents Obama & Trump have been doing that. Has it made you feel better?

 

we have no immigration clause; simply raise the minimum wage so we don't have to fix maximum wages.

 

If you don't like "Nazis" telling you how to live your life, then don't re-elect Trump--our first authoritarian President.

There are MANY things in life more valuable than money, and a nation's greatness is not measured by its wealth, but what it contributes to civilization. Neither Ancient Egypt or Greece, are regarded as "Great" nations because of their wealth. Egypt is great because of her art & her great building projects. Greece is "great" because she gave us leaps in intellectual understanding of the world & universe around us. For me, America's greatness stems from it being the first modern nation state to recognize the truth of every man (person) being naturally equal in value, and having certain inalienable rights. I also feel America has been one of history's greatest contributors to Mankind's growing list of scientific & technological discoveries. I DO think that wealth helped make many of these achievements easier &/or possible, but I don't think the accrual of wealth in itself, makes anyone--individual or nation--"great."

 

I'd rather be a liberal, who thinks & cares about others around him, than a self-righteous conservative whose only concern is how he or she can rise above everyone around them.

 

Thank you. Unfortunately, I'm not one of the ultra-wealthy. If I were, I'd be finding ways to do what I could to help others around me fulfill their dreams--especially when those dreams might result in a better world.

 

I understand that the above is obtuse and moronic given the context of the conversation. The question at hand is not if Red supports Red. The question is why Red lives in some delusion that Red is the party of fiscal conservatism.

 

1. I regard myself as a Democratic Socialist, much like Bernie Sanders & Alexandria Ortiz-Cortez. I do NOT support Communism because everywhere it has become empowered, it has ruled with inhumane tyranny.
2. I am not an attorney, nor am I personally involved with welfare in any way. Although I support the idea of welfare as a means of helping those in need to give them the chance to improve their lives, I am not personally well informed about its legal parameters, nor do I feel a need to be.
3. You may be right. I'm not currently up to date on real estate prices generally, though I know they vary according to state &/or location. I live in an unusually beautiful locale, frequented by tourists, and housing here is both challenging & overly expensive. But my wife & I love it here, and deal with the extra expenses as best we can in order to remain here. We know we could live elsewhere cheaper, but we don't want to move.

 

Yes, the state has eliminated capitalism. Agreed. We need to get back to capitalism.

 

There's strength in numbers. Your charity could be nationwide and have millions of concerned citizens like yourself.

 

What, so people who can't afford California can live there? Great. I'd like to live in a much colder climate .. maybe Northern Japan. Unfortunately I can't afford it .. so can you organise a cheap house there for me please?

 

1) cool. then you're a capitalist. I like capitalists who are open and clear on their position. they make the world turn

2) FTR, you can own property and be on welfare.

3) I also live in an expensive, beautiful, and touristed area, and while we've owned our home outright for many years, we don't like having so much money tied up in a single property. As long as that capital is tied up, it can't be used for more practical goals .. like a better solar system than the one we have, more rainwater tanks, a better composting sewage system, more extensive food production systems, mass tree planting, etc etc. PS: We'd actually prefer to live in a $50k shack in a more rural area, but we won't be doing that while kids are still with us (two of three commute daily to university, the third to follow soon).

 

Firms should not be able to leave "tax free" merely for cheaper labor in less developed economies. They should be, excised to first world parity.

 

1) Red has introduced 30 BBA's, Blue's killed everyone
2) Even at $4.7 trillion blues are denouncing Trumps budget as cruel.

100% of the energy for fiscal responsibility is blue. Is that simple enough for the gifted one to understand?