Do true believers eat this stuff

My logic is to reduce meat consumption thereby reducing the harm caused by its production.
They will not continue to multiply if we stop breeding them.
Yes, re-wilding the spare agricultural land no longer needed for inefficient meat production could result in increased wildlife. That is a good thing.
Bird populations in my country have fallen by up to 70% as a result of intensive farming. Much of that is grains for livestock feed.

 

cooking them in heavily processed seed oil has been banned, at least the Trans fat they were cooked in for about the last 20 to 30 years

the health consequences of that for many are huge, some businesses are returning to frying in lard as it is the healthier option

 

The figures produced by Montegriffo suggest that it takes 250 times more land, water and soil to produce meat than fruits and vegetables. I just wondered why and how meat is so cheap comparatively. I agree that food high in simple carbohydrates causes problems such as diabetes and that fats and proteins are essential for good health. However many plant based foods are rich in fatty acids and proteins also. It seems like we could better use our land by growing high quality plant based food which would promote better health and cut our medical costs while leaving more land in its natural state.

 

Read up on desertification and topsoil loss due to overgrazing.
Anyone serious about protecting the environment should reduce their meat consumption.
Absolutely, factory farming is far worse but grazing is not problem free.

 

much of that is for HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup) to make all those low fat items not taste like cardboard

 

watch the video I linked to above and you will realize you have been mislead

more grazing animals could end desertification in fact

factory farming is also an issues, too many pesticides and water use is getting unreal - there needs to be a natural balance and rotating fields with grazing animals

of course the real issue is human population is growing too big, but that is a hard issue to solve, nature will probably solve that one for us if we keep on the path we are going

 

I far prefer dead cows over dead chickens or pigs, but I like oysters with lemon, horseradish, Tabasco, and some sparkling white wine.

 

Are you going to give them birth prevention pills?

Which increases the methane you are trying to stop. You can't have it both way.s

 

Wait a few more years, and we'll be growing our meat in vats. Problem solved.

 

HFC is responsible for most health problems in my opinion. Low fat items like broccoli or sweet potatoes taste a lot better when they are mixed with butter, salt and pepper. No need to douse them with syrup.

 

I fully accept that Climate Change is real and our planet is warming but also know we cannot make it go away by not eating meat or anything else at this point, it is too late and we human cannot even agree to feed everyone let alone stop using stuff we like.

 

like GMO, I just wanted them labeled as such, people should be allowed to make informed choices

I hear chicken in fast food places will be the first to get this meat grown in a lab, I assume tv diners would be next

 

I prefer dead cows over other four legged animals.

I just wish there were wild cows in America and a cow hunting season.

 

Good meat produced humanely and in a sustainable manner is not cheap. The reason meat is comparatively cheap is the amount produced using intensive methods and the subsidies given to producers.
If, for example, a carbon tax was applied to it reflecting the true cost it would compare even more unfavourably with a vegetable diet.

 

there is a lot of Vegan propaganda out there that is false and we are learning more about health from the failed dietary guidelines of the USA for the last 50 years

high carbs are a huge issue in America and sadly I do not see this eating pastern changing much in the near future, but people are starting to see the truth, just slowly

I am a proponent of eating more low carb vegetables, meat and good fats (avoid heavily processed seed oil like the plague)

 

Yes, of course. Everyone should have the right to know what they're eating. TV dinners? I'll pass on those, they taste like cardboard now, even with 'real' meat.

 

I don't think they are 'real' meat - lol

 

If they have ever Make cow hunting legal, hit me up and I will join you. I think I might be pretty good at it.

 

then we need to tax vegetables and fruit for the pesticide and water impact to society and the health costs associated - stop trying to tax our food

 

I recall ... a long long time ago ... that sausage meat was found to have kangaroo in it. I believe in in the UK they found that the Bulgarians were putting horses into meat products shipped to the UK. And it makes you wonder -- see Soylent Green -- what happens to the down-and-outs who expire.

 

they now have a vegan product called soylent (high carbs, bad oils)
https://soylent.com/

but I prefer the keto version called ketolent (renamed Sated) (low carbs, good oils)(also vegan) - only in powered form currently, releasing bottled form in next couple months
https://sated.com/collections/sated-formerly-ketolent

sausage and hot dogs most of us know as mystery meat... I was really upset though when they started adding pink slim to hamburgers - leave hamburgers alone - I want labels that clearly state this stuff, greedy Corporations will do anything to save a buck

 

Actually, where I live it is mostly wheat, barley and rapeseed. The first two are routinely used for animal feeds.

I live on a farm in rural Suffolk in the east of England.
It is an arable farm which produces traditional long stem wheat such as square head master for use in thatching. All the wheat goes to animal feed and is a by-product of the straw.
Barley is also grown entirely for feed.
The farmer keeps a very small herd of traditional Suffolk red pol cattle for his own consumption so I am very aware of the resources and land it takes to rear those cattle. A 10 acre field is needed to provide summer grazing for a dozen animals and he has to supplement their winter feed with silage bought from off the farm and from another 10-acre meadow on this farm.
So that's 20 acres plus imported silage from another farm to put about 4 or 5 animals per year into the freezers. Plus some wheat from his thatching straw which he grinds himself for the winter months ( Oct-May in the cowshed) and some barley straw.

 

If Americans wish to reduce their meat consumption, they will.
If Americans wish to increase their meat consumption, we will.

That's the great thing about being an American.

Innovative New Process Converts Vegetables Into Meat By Feeding Them To Cows.

 

I live in America and here it is HFCS or Ethanol

yes, even the farmers know grass fed meat is healthy and choose to eat meat

the problem with grains today is they are over processed, like so much of our food supply, that and of course people eat too much of them...

 

Oh FFS, am I talking to a child here?
Few herds contain bulls, cattle are generally artificially inseminated.
Do you think I'm suggesting we just set the animals free to reproduce at will?
I'm not saying that meat eating should stop overnight to save the lives of the animals. I'm saying it should be reduced or phased out so that the land can be used for much more efficient food production and so that large areas can be turned back into more natural habitat including carbon locking forests.