Do true believers eat this stuff

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  1. Josephwalker

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    This stuff is not exactly plastic but I'm no nutritionist and have no idea about its glycemic index. Perhaps you can enlighten me.

    Beyond Burger ingredients: water, pea protein isolate, expeller-pressed canola oil, refined coconut oil, contains 2% or less of the following: cellulose from bamboo, methylcellulose, potato starch, natural flavor, maltodextrin, yeast extract, salt, sunflower oil, vegetable glycerin, dried yeast, gum Arabic, citrus
     
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    The methane they produce is inconsequential compared to the fossil fuel used in their production if C02 is your concern
     
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    So in this regard you walk the walk which is very rare for warmers. Good for you.
     
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    Look up glycemic index.
    After, I will gladly discuss.



    BTW there does exist Essential Fatty Acids that
    can only be obtained via animal fat / oil.
    I don't see a source of Essential Fatty Acids above.
    Nor complete protein with all the Essential Amino Acids.
    What of the Vitamin B12 and Iron present in meat. Absent above.



    Plastic Food.
    The earliest astronaut and infant formulas had no Vitamin E measured.
    The assumption was the stuff is so prevalent it is in there somewhere.
    Then astronauts and infants developed "exploding red blood cells".
    Guess what. Vitamin E is that important and can't be assumed present
    when constructing a food in a chemistry lab and not by Nature :worship:

    Just Say No to Plastic Foods.
    Nature provides.


    Moi :oldman:
     
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    One of the widely known quotes about elections says the choice is between two unsavory options, one of which is a sh*t sandwich. I suspect that any day now, it will occur to a liberal that if we actually did all eat sh*t sandwiches, it would eliminate the need for beef and the methane cows produce, and clean up the feces on the streets and sewage issues at the same time. Compound solution, a win-win kind of thing that libs seem to pounce on..... Probably be introduced either by the AOC squad, or in California, where creative minds have no limits. Do you want fries with that?
     
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    Interesting but this threads about dramatically reducing your Carbon footprint by not eating meat if you are a member of the warmer cult and offering an alternative. It's not about nutrition.
     
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    I believe fries have become politically incorrect and are also being banned. lol
     
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    :roflol:

    Well I did lol when I read the statement in large bold font.
    Truly


    Moi :oldman:


    PS The Vitamin E I believe is in the canola oil
    but, where is the A & D found in Nature's meat? ;)


     
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    Guess I don't get the joke but glad you got a good laugh.
     
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    1) Absurd. Killing all the wild animals is completely against the goal of moving forward in a more sustainable fashion. Protecting biodiversity and the restoration of natural habitat are high amongst the aims of the environmental movement. The aim is to restore balance not remove every source of greenhouse gases.

    2) Stopping livestock production will eliminate the need for using land to produce feed and will eliminate the methane they produce. Just phase out the production.

    3) Yes it does. That is why cattle and sheep have to be moved from field to field as they consume the available grass. Same with cutting hay for winter feed. Grass 2 or 3 feet high is removed leaving only a couple of inches. That is almost completely consumed. Soya and maize plus all the other kinds of animal feeds are also almost completely consumed by the livestock it is grown for.

    The argument that cutting meat production reduces harmful greenhouse gases is uncontroversial.
    The point is to reduce mankind's contribution to global warming.
    Nonsense about killing all the wild animals as well is clearly nothing but a lame attempt to divert the conversation away from the damage caused by meat production.
    Not understanding the amount of plants required to produce that meat is just ignorant and a little research will cure you of that.
     
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    What we do know, vegans and those who don't eat a lot of meat emit three times more methane into the air than meat eaters.

    Vegans fart a lot.
     
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    I still eat meat, I do not believe that cow farts are the cause of climate change, that is just some Vegans trying to stop people from eating meat - there will always be groups that try to take advantage of any bad situation

    I rank it up there with some Christians trying to blame bad weather on gay marriage or something

    I do believe man is having an effect on the climate though

    I also believe no one will change until forced too or it becomes better and cheaper to do so

    in fact, eating more meat could save the planet

     
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    Never thought about that. lol
    Maybe they could use that for an excuse as to why they still eat meat when it uses six times more fossil fuel to produce than an equal amount of vegetarian food.
    The "fart defense".
     
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    Maybe you missed this post. Long thread.




    "Animal protein production requires more than eight times as much fossil-fuel energy than production of plant protein while yielding animal protein that is only 1.4 times more nutritious for humans than the comparable amount of plant protein, according to the Cornell ecologist's analysis."

    https://news.cornell.edu/stories/1997/08/us-could-feed-800-million-people-grain-livestock-eat
     
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    Getting rid of domestic would get rid of only a small portion because there are many more wild animals.
    I haven't been making myself clear. You are only talking about harvesting the meat. If you do not kill them and harvest them they will multiply even faster. They are not going to stop breeding just because we do not eat them.
    It is a silly idea unless you plan on completely getting rid of domestic livestock. They will continue to breed and multiply. Or is your logic to kill all the domestic livestock and let the wild livestock continue to multiply.
     
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    from what I hear it tastes better then the other fake meat, but the ingredients are not healthy imo

    though if a vegan really desires meat, this might give them their meat fix. in small amounts, probably wont be too bad for their health

    the processed seed oils and the Yeast Extract aka Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) is the real issue with the product

    https://ancestral-nutrition.com/beyond-meat-is-beyond-unhealthy/


    they sell it here in the meat isle, I wonder how many Vegans actually go to the meat isle to buy it?
     
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    Nearly half of foodborne illness is cauased by eating fresh produce. This comes from the CDC.
    https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/communication/steps-healthy-fruits-veggies.html
    There is also the risk of contamination by fertilizers and contaminated soil.

    There are millions and millions of acres around the world that are unsuitable for crop production but will support livestock, providing the needed nutrition for those inhabitants. The limitations include slope, available water, frost, heat, stones, and general quality of the soil. Growing crops requires cultivation which emits CO2.
     
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    I do not approve of factory farming and feeding them grain which is bad for the animals and environment, go back to nature, grass fed like in the youtube I posted and save the planet
     
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    Not true but thanks for pointing out that it does not stop at the methane.
    I have numerous concerns, greenhouse gas emissions is just one of them.


    http://www.earthsave.org/environment.htm
     
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    Did your spiritual advisor turn your ex into a vegan fart knocker?
     
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    Those are amazing figures. I have heard about this for years now. I wonder how meat remains so cheap and those who produce it are still making lots of money.
     
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    same reason I do not eat Twinkies, even if they taste good it's not good for your health, so why would you eat beyond meat? eat more natural foods, less processed food
     
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    cause meat is healthy and good for you... over the last 50 years we have learned that high carbs and low fat is a receipt for bad health outcomes, increases the risk of cancer and other metabolic diseases like diabetes
     
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    What the Democrats in California don't want to talk about is how much water is used to grow marijuana.

     
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    No, she eats a lot of dead chickens and oysters too.
     

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