Another mass shooting deserves a better answer.

Discussion in 'United States' started by kungfuliberal, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Have you ever heard the tale of the mall ninja, my son?

    https://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/
     
  2. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Here is a map of the Mall:
    https://www.simon.com/mall/cielo-vista-mall/map#/

    Walmart is not in that mall. It is on a detached piece of land with its own parking area and the actual building over 100 yards away from Dillards which is on the perimeter of the mall

    The posters in that pro-gun Texan forum stated that they will conceal carry into the walmarts that they use and will only leave if orally challenged by staff. Why would the El Paso walmart be treated any differently by these pro-gunners?
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Never heard of the Mall Ninja, but there are several posters on this forum who think that they would have stepped up to the hero status whenever a mass shooter shows up, if only these "heroes" were allowed to carry :wink:
     
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    So you didn't learn the lesson about the mallninja huh?
     
  5. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Follow the link bud
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Your link does not have a point other than just being a long wall of text which after reading the first few posts became obviously pointless to carry on reading. Why don't you summarize it?
     
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    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Ok: Just because you saw it on a forum unsupported by actual evidence doesn't mean you should a) take it as the God's honest truth b) think that every single thing you see on every single forum is therefore false.

    You have to use your context clues and your discernment.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unconstitutionally infringing on our rights is anti-American no matter how you try to dress it up. Get an amendment or get gone...
     
  9. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    The context was 06 and 07 notices in Walmarts in Texas and many pro-gunners (not just one) saying that they ignore those notices . Why would they lie?

    Face it, many gun carriers ignore "gun free zone" notices and conceal carry their guns into those gun-free zones. And they run away just like everyone else when a mass shooter turns up
     
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    Drivings not a right, gun ownership is.

    Government doesn't have the right to license or track gun ownership.
     
  11. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Why did the mallninja and his compatriot lie?
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Most likely because like all pro-gun types, they say they would be heroes who will rush in when others are fleeing whereas the truth is that they flee in the same directions as all the others whenever a mass shooter turns up. And many of those fleeing conceal carry

    PS I haven't seen your summary of your wall of text link (over 10,000 words!) on the mallninja so cannot comment on your point or what the lie was
     
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    So your response is to simply believe every person you read from on a random internet forum?
    My, that's ever so reasonable. I'm sorry though, you're now tied for most reasonable decision ever that couldn't possibly have god awful consequences with:

    custerleavingthegatlingsOC.jpg <<< This guy.

    Read the link dude, if you can't even do that you're not mature enough to have a discussion with.
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    So you've got nothing other than saying that pro-gunners are liars.

    You also struggle with reading comprehension. Which bit of "Most likely because like all pro-gun types, they say they would be heroes who will rush in when others are fleeing whereas the truth is that they flee in the same directions as all the others whenever a mass shooter turns up." did you not understand?
     
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    I've got nothing other than pointing out that page 13 on a random forum without anything else to recommend it (like photographs of the walmart in question sans signs) isn't much of a source and saying "well these random people on the internet say they regularly commit a felony or class a misdemeanor" doesn't make them trustworthy or verified in any fashion, any more than the mall ninja's tale means he's really saving mayor's son's anal virginity from the depredations of the russian mob that preys upon his mall.
     
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    The questions that nobody has answered is what did Obama do about it when he had full control of Congress for his first two years in office? The Dems are screaming now, but where were they then! Cowards!
     
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    You missed pages 1 to 12 in that thread on the forum that is dedicated to Texan pro-gunners and has a tab dedicated to joining the NRA. So in conclusion, you've got nothing other than saying that many pro-gunners are liars. I agree with that - as can be seen where I wrote "Most likely because like many pro-gun types, they say they would be heroes who will rush in when others are fleeing whereas the truth is that they flee in the same directions as all the others whenever a mass shooter turns up." even when carrying
     
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    They dont have photos of the Walmart in question there either. O my there is an ad tab!!!!! You dont say!!! That's a +2 to truthyness!
     
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    Yep, many pro-gunners are lying Rambo wannabees
     
  20. Reality

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    Like 4 people you assume are actually pro gun and not trolling or lying, sure
     
  21. kungfuliberal

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    Look, let me divorce you of some pivotal talking points used by the brain dead propaganda machine of the NRA:

    - in the last 60 years, no law has been passed that has "grabbed" guns purchased legally by law abiding citizens. Period. If you can cite one, then produce it for the reading audience. Otherwise, stop parroting lies.

    - rattling off the various intricacies about various weapons DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACTS pertaining to what was listed in the 1994 AWB, which went into detail as to what was being banned.

    - stating that lawyers look for loopholes is a moot point....that such exercised loopholes occasionally cheat the spirit and intent of a law is also a moot point. The end result is the number of "loophole" assault rifles from the 1994 AWB list used to kill people in the last 20 years.

    - that a growing number of NRA folk are leaving the reservation and agreeing with implementing better gun control laws makes your last sentence foolish blather found on conservative talking head TV and radio shows.
     
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    Who are you responding to?
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    You're going to have to copy and paste the EXACT sentence or paragraph that proves what you say, because what I propose essentially enhances said laws. The burden of proof is on you. Get crack'in!
     
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    But remember, I'm talking about CONCEALED CARRY WEAPONS, not open carry.
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Once again, YOU keep making generalized statements couched in constructed scenarios and the hypothetical....I just respond in kind, and it seems your own ploy plays against you when properly used. In short, you're just blowing smoke.
     

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