"Nobody knew there would be a pandemic or epidemic of this proportion"

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  1. Libby

    Libby Well-Known Member

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    Do you have any links showing idiots in America attacking Asians in America because of a pandemic that started in China?

    And either way, it's a fact this originated in China. Shrug.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You seem to be operating with all kinds of bad information.

    Trump did not turn away test kits. ---> https://www.politifact.com/factchec...falsely-says-trump-administration-rejected-w/

    Test Kits were not available because of the lack of key materials thanks to Clinton, W. Bush, and Obama exporting our manufacturing. I have shared that Politico link here many times.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/10/coronavirus-testing-lab-materials-shortage-125212

    The NBA tested tons of players that didn't need it and wasted the kits. $ has its privileges.

    The entity was not "cut", it was made more efficient as it had massive expensive redundancies. In fact, they received an increase in funding from Trump prior to all this. You are talking out of the side of your neck and repeating DailyKos talking points.
     
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    I'm sure they sold all their stocks since they knew this was coming.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep. You have no clue what a martyr is. You should stop using that word, and yes they is tons of false narratives created by the left that have been proven to be lies. Such as:

    (1) Trump did not turn away Test Kits from the U.N.
    (2) Trump did not call the virus a "hoax"
    (3) Trump did not reduce spending on the pandemic team, but actually increased it.
    (4) Trump did not muzzle contagious disease experts
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Their attics were stuffed to busting with toilet paper and hand sanitizer back in December.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    He's doing it to hold China accountable for their culpability and reprehensible behavior in relation to the current pandemic.
     
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    No one is cheering this. No one wants to see deaths or lockdowns or unemployment or a stock market crash.
    Those are all awful things.
    But every cloud has a silver lining, and it isn’t wrong to recognise that Trump’s defeat in November might be one good thing to come out of this.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Because a senile old man at the helm of this national crisis is somehow a rosier picture?
     
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    A senile old man IS at the helm.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, Trump's mental health used to be a popular leftist attack.

    It's kinda lost popularity since the Dem front runner is basically the Alzheimer's poster codger.

    Are you sure you want to keep going to "mentally unfit" well?
     
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    You're right...

     
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    My comment never said anything about Trump "turning away test kits," rather the shortage of test kits being avaliable to testing sights, Trump's claim that anybody wanting a test can get a test couldn't be any further from the truth. Any blaming others is typical Trump, he got word it was a possibility, and did morning to prepare. Your fact check is irrelevant

    The NBA was the first entity to take action, not the leader of the country, when they cancelled it started the dominos falling, Trump was still out there implying it was just like the seasonal common flu

    Trump cut the NSC Global Health Dept, you can't deny that fact, the entity set up to prepare the country for an epidemic was eliminated by Trump

    I'd say the one operating with faulty info is yourself
     
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    That is not true, what does purposely labeling it the Ghina virus bring to the table? How does it aid us in fighting the epidemic? In fact, Trump earlier praised Ghina for the way they were dealing with the outbreak.

    The reason Trump does it is to give individuals on the right a scapegoat, someone to blame, a needed deflection, make it all about Ghina rather than dealing with my blunders, something for the Hannitys to propagandize about.

    It is Trump's usual schtick, the problem this time is he can't say it is Obama fault, the media's fault, the Democrat's fault, the usual suspects fault, but foreigners, Ghinese or Mexicans, usual works
     
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    Never said anything about turning away test kits from anyone, rather that the test kits were hard to come by at the same time Trump was telling America, " anybody who wants a test can get one," can't deny there were major difficulties with the availability of the tests, Dr Fauci even labeled it a failure

    Trump and the entire right wing media said the reaction to the virus was purposely fueled by a media/Democrat hoax, which Trump's actions since show it was anything but a hoax

    Fact, Trump eliminated the NSC Global Health Office, the very entity created to deal with a potential epidemic, even Dr Fauci said its presence would have been helpful

    And again, never said anyone was muzzled, but Trump does do a good job at his now daily Trump/Pence show fielding questions and then assigning who responds

    What Trump did say as the virus was spreading unchecked across the country:

    "Could be a game changer, maybe not"
    "We have it totally under control"
    "We have very little problem in this country at this moment"
    "I think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.”
    "We’re in great shape"
    “We have it very much under control in this country.”
    “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA"
    “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”
    "Everything is really under control.”
    "No, I’m not concerned at all. No, we’ve done a great job with it.”
    “And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it.
    "It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”

     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    What's with the "Ghina"?

    Are you having a stroke?
     
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    ^^^^ If everyone wants a lesson in how to be intellectually dishonest in their postings, this is a prime example.

    Taking people out of context and offering just a fraction of their total statement is for people that care little for the truth. That is what the above post is all about. These are the same people that took Trump's "hoax" and Charlottesville quotes wildly out of context and then attacked him for it. These people are not interested in an honest exchange, but burning down the President at all costs is their goal, because as we know... ORANGE MAN BAD!!!
     
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    Bingo.

    But I guess it's a sign of how well Trump is handling this, when the best his haters can do to criticize him is to spin things out of context and then scream at the sky, because they can't find anything he actually did wrong.
     
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    How would you suggest we "help Trump?" Buy into a falling market? Ignore the news? If I am not mistaken, Italy tested more than we have. Whether or not these are comparable statistical results is TBD.
     
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    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True...there are SOME of the media that are out to destroy Trump regardless of the facts. However, his ad hominem attacks and gross exaggerations (if not outright lies) don't help his case - i.e. he brings most of this on himself.
     
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    Not paying attention, listen to Trump when he says "China," often it comes out "Ghina," which SNL really took off on
     
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    Incorrect, Trump said all of those quotes, and most of them speak for themselves even without context, but you are free to invalidate any of them rather than just offering comment, this ain't talk radio, just cause you say it it doesn't make it fact
     
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    Another one, this ain't talk radio, you can't discredit anything by just saying it, you have to offer proof, invalidate anything I posted, easy to say "bingo," lets see you back it up
     
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    And there isn't such an epidemic. There is more hysteria about it and therein is what makes it dangerous and frightening. To me it appears to be behaving like the other corona viruses of the past. We just decided to launch a panic about it.
     
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    You want the president of the United States to panic 320 million people? Remember the lefties are the first to be eaten by the hordes.
     
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    There's been prior coronavirus that spread so rapidly across the globe? When did that happen?

    You're behind, even Trump moved on from the media inspired panic deflection
     

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