What the virus has taught me (and maybe yourself as well)

And COVID will surpass that this week. Even with social distancing measures. And we'll see more deaths in the winter. Where are you getting lost?

 

Right, and how many of these people were elderly and/or immune compromised? I'm willing to bet that makes up a large amount of those death statistics. It is bad, I won't deny that, but not everyone is looking at a life or death situation here. There will be a second wave whenever we reopen, so continuing to postpone it really is redundant.

 

CDC

 

Deaths are already on the decline, the peak has passed. It has killed mostly over 60 with comorbidities. The flu kills kids, covid doesn't

 

Our death numbers for flu and other diseases don't exclude the elderly/immune compromised. Even when we compare it to other diseases, it is bad. This is a global pandemic. We need to treat it seriously. Reopen? With widespread testing and and contact tracking, sure. But we aren't there yet.

 

And you probably think that is due to magic, but that is due to aggressive social distancing measures.

COVID has killed kids. Please pay attention to facts and quit making stuff up.

 

As in can you actually provide the source. Like with a link. I'll take that as a no.

 

You haven't heard of the CDC? They have a website if you know how to Google.

 

I'm not doing your homework for you. You made a claim. Either you can back it up or you can't. You obviously can't. Thanks for the white flag, though.

 

You are the one asking, do your own homework.

 

You made the claim and refuse to back it up. Intellectual honesty (obviously not a concern here) would mean it is on you to back up your claim. It isn't my job to prove your claim for you. Thanks for the second white flag.

 

I know, being educated by looking things up is not your thing. Accusing others of being intellectually dishonest because you want don't want to educate yourself is so much easier.

 

You made the claim. It is up to you to look it up and back up your claim or it has no bearing on this discussion. Third white flag, sweetie, and you're out. Ta ta.

 

Covid causes pneumonia.

 

He's still busy avoiding the fact that he can't actually produce those "Pneumonia without COVID" numbers and blaming others for his homework failures.

 

You were already called out for incorrectly citing CDC statistics in another thread after refusing to actually link the source you claim existed.

And now you are doing it again in a different thread.

 

Certainly that will be the DNC directed message through their MSM propagana specialists.

 

So tell me again the vast benefits of mass transportation? In NY 23,474 were transported to an early grave.

 

Probably not a good thing to bring up on our part considering that 37,500 Americans were killed in car accidents in 2016, and
that has happened year after year in the "individual transportation" column.

So benefits - mass transportation could have saved about 370,000 American lives over the last ten years vs. the 23,000.

 

We can treat it seriously without costing people their apartments, homes and careers. Even when places do reopen, there's not a reason to fear going back to work. It's like we are literally creating our own economic ruin here that will have worse repercussions than in 2008. Do you really think all that people like what Cuomo is doing is really going to help in the long run? Or would it simply make sense for New York simply to reopen, some die, and business goes on as usual?

 

We're talking about one of the leading causes of death in the US, even after these social distancing measures, so "some die" is a desperate misdirect. Yes, until we have widespread testing and contact investigations in place, there is a reason to fear going back to non-remote work. At least for those of us who think lives matter. And if you think massive new deaths would not have an economic impact as well . . . think on that more.

 

We're not even close to having widespread testing, which could take at least a couple more months. How can you defend continuing to keep everything shut down for months on end? Even after we feel safe enough to reopen, there's still going to be COVID cases. Because again, its not at all feasible to have everything shut down until we have a vaccine possibly after the start of next year.

 

The massive run on TP is absolutely indicative of what you are saying. Because a panic of a toilet paper factory in Wuhan scared people IN Wuhan to buy some additional supplies while in lockdown sent a tizzy in this nation when the Media started reporting "Toilet paper shortages". People were fighting for toilet paper for a respiratory infection.

 

We really don't know how many people it killed since the CDC instructed the medical industry to blame all deaths in people who were infected with Covid-19 on the virus whether or not Covid was the cause. We do know that it is not nearly as infectious as Swine Flu that infected 60M people in 2009-2010. But since it effects the respiratory systems in people on death's doorstep, it has a much greater fatality rate. That wasn't helped by Cuomo dumping Covid-19 patients into nursing and assisted living homes to kill over 3000 residents

 

I've heard this claim before and I've asked for proof, and no one is ever able to provide any. The numbers we have are the low-ball. I know it sucks, but it is true. And, no, back here in reality (which Trumpists are going to avoid at all costs anyway), it doesn't only impact those "on death's doorstep." And it is, objectively, far deadlier than H1N1 . . . which, by the way, we almost immediately had widely available testing for in a way that we very much don't now. But keep pitching whatever avoidances or reality are required to protect a certain political faction.