Donald “The Loser” Trump represents the fundamental dishonestly of American Business.

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  1. quiller

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    Precisely. It's the only reason they have. Hate like theirs shows how blind we'd be to ever put them in charge.
     
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    quiller Well-Known Member

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    Supply links that conservatives said this, and answer whether your business employed deductions. If you did, your argument is over.
     
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    I hate Trump, therefore all his crimes are forgiven????
     
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    Trump isn't going to prison, sorry to break it to ya.
     
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    What you're supposed to do, if you're not following this forum, is to learn to use Search. This has been a recurring theme on this forum for years. Until we started learning that Trump himself was a freeloader. Even before the tax returns.

    Read my sig and do your own research. This is a known fact. Not the point of the discussion.

    My business does not rely on multi-million dollar attorneys engaged in endless litigation to get me out of paying my fair share. Like Trump does. THAT's a freeloader.
     
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    We need to pass a constitutional amendment that all candidates for president and vice president must make at least the ten most recent years Federal Tax Returns available to the media and American voting public. We need to stop con men like Dirty Donald from ever scamming the voting public again.
     
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    Why don't you run with that?
     
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    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Your present leaders despise people: not only the enemy that they fight but all of you. They see you only as a means to their power and as objects of their commands. They watch over you in all of your life's movements, just as prisoners and criminals are guarded. This disdainful outlook on life has alienated the people in Germany, one from another. Trust is destroyed. And it is becoming more and more lonesome and cold for you....They are beginning to grasp that the 'new order' in Europe is an order of death (Theologian Paul Tillich, Against the Third Reich - Paul Tillich's Wartime Radio Broadcasts into Nazi Germany, May 1942, page 29, pdf.)."


    Donald Sherman (the deputy director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a government watchdog group) has said, “I think it confirms that he [Trump] will likely continue to use the government, the tools of the government and his status as president to shield him from legal scrutiny,” In fact, the entire Trump crime syndicate could go to jail. Paul Tillich told the German people in his broadcasts that "your present rulers have carefully cut your youth off from the influence of all those spiritual leaders of the German past who could give them an answer to this question (ibid., p. 29). The Trump crime family knows that the moment they are out of political office, they will face justice so they'll urge their followers to sacrifice themselves.

    To the sick and elderly Tillich said, "The cynical cruelty and indifference of your present leaders toward everyone who is weak and sick is connected most closely with their lack of understanding in respect to the religious dimension of our life." We can say the same today of the extremist right-wing posing as "Christian," but in fact they are the very opposite of Christianity.

    In the books of Revelations the Anti-Christ does not appear as the "anti-non-Christ," but instead appears as the Christ.

    Michigan stadium holds 100,000 people. Currently, the American death toll is about 225,000 Americans dead because the American oligarchy is cynical, cruel, and indifference to anything other than their hold on all political power.

    2.4 X times the seating of Michigan stadium
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    Plus Mesquite Memorial Stadium, Texas holds 20,000 persons.
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    Republicans are as idiotic as democrats, so who cares what they think? Only an idiot would pay more than they have to.
     
  12. quiller

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    Say WHAT?
     
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    In other words you use deductions and refuse to admit it.
     
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    So blame the people not the tax code.
     
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    I am not blaming the tax code or the people. Comprende? I am saying the opposite. If the deduction is lawful under current IRS Code, it would be foolish not to use it.
     
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    Well aren't you sumpin'! I sincerely doubt you pay double what Trump does on the years he pays what he has deferred. Next time I go to the big city, I'll stay at the Golem Building! How's that?
     
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    How does one abuse the tax code? In order to abuse a law you must commit a crime.
     
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    Your Government relies on multi million dollar attorneys to formulate their tax laws. Apparently this "enterprise" you tout as so gigantic to be on a par with Trump's is so minute in comparison, it doesn't require those attorneys.As I have said, golem, if Government is your charity of choice, give as you feel led. Actually you should since you forever tout it's virtues. Actually the homeless should be paying taxes in some minute way. They use our public restrooms, sleep on our grates and spend their time in an unproductive, sometimes destructive fashion.
     
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    Iv
    creating thousands of jobs makes one exactly the opposite of a freeloader
     
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    ??????

    No... I pull everything I say out of my ass. Like Trump does.

    Of course I use deductions! What else would any rational person use? Next thing you're going to "accuse" me of is of being intelligent. That one I would reject, though.

    It's only Tuesday and your post has already been awarded the "Most Ridiculous Post of the Week" award.
     
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    Okay, so now that you admit you too use deductions, is it not hypocritical to condemn Trump for the same? Asking for a friend.....
     
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    Give me the $71 million Trump got from the IRS, and I'll be happy to defer double what he has.

    If there ever is a Golem Building, you will know I did not build it by stiffing suppliers and workers, like Trump does.

    Understand: Trump is a complete looser who is good at one thing, and one thing only: cheating. But now he got caught.
     
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    The crime wave is the responsibility of people who never paid the price. Cuomo and Pelosi, Biden and Reid own the 2007 meltdown of the real estate market and economy. The proliferation of toxic paper by Cuomo and the AAA rating he placed on securities backed by the good faith and credit of Uncle Sam, securities containing his toxic mortgages, were responsible for the meltdown.
    Trump, who probably lost half of his net worth in the meltdown was a victim. So, if his real estate holdings that generated $100M annual operating income lost $1B in value, he would have suffered a $900M net loss ,,, out of his control.

    When Cuomo shut down NYC and when deBlasio defaced the street in front of Trump Tower, I would have been calling an appraiser to see how much depreciation he caused. I'll bet there are appraisers working on that right now ,,, and rightfully so.

    More recently, the House Speaker who left a meeting on shutting down brick and mortar retail and ran to the phone to tell hubby to invest in Amazon should be in jail. Politicians who outsourced the US to China for their own personal gain have earned our scorn. The rest of us, to include Trump, are victims of the Washington establishment --- that at least Trump felt the obligation to attempt to correct.
     
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    I have no idea what the first part of your post means. But I can say that nobody who supports Trump has any standing to demand that the homeless or... anybody, for that matter, pay taxes.
     
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    Stiffing the people who do work for you is the very definition of a freeloader.
     
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