Donald “The Loser” Trump represents the fundamental dishonestly of American Business.

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  1. Kyklos

    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    Donald “The Loser” Trump represents the fundamental dishonestly of American Business.

    Notice how the ruling American ideology is Ayn Randian egoism (I got mine, screw you) until a crisis hits and then its "we are in this together!" (We are a Christian nation).

    "The entire company's history is based on 'we are all in this together'.”– Starbuck’s Neoliberal Ayn Randian Libertarian CEO, Howard Schultz.

    The most annoying habit of Trump for American oligarchs is that he takes off their masks! Donald “The Loser” is presented to the American people as the paradigm of American business leadership. New York City awarded “The Loser” about one billion dollars in tax subsidies for his real-estate scam empire. The natural born business leader spent the last 50 years traveling down the East Coast spreading financial ruin to small businesses by refusing to pay for construction costs. Trump would simply use the courts to bankrupt the creditors even more with endless delays.

    Donald Trump created all that destruction while New York State Lie Enforcement did nothing for decades.

    In fact, NYPD police officers lie enforcement union endorsed Trump for president in the 2020 election!

    The American media conglomerates did the most to give The Loser and public drug abuser legitimacy.

    Elderly religious persons are particularly in danger of being defrauded by American business for home repair, auto repair, financial instruments, and medical treatment. No American should have to face the threat of financial bankruptcy to fix a roof, or repair a patio. For the last 40 years there has been a national crime wave emanating from Wall Street financially destroying millions of Americans: Wall Street Bayou Hedge Fund Group (Sam Israel), Qwest Communicationss (Joseph Nacchio), WorldCom (Ebbers), Enron (Lay and Skilling), Maddoff Investment, and Theranos (Genius CEO and natural leader Elizabeth Holmes) to name a few.

    Some of the most highly educated mediocre crappy American university professors, economists, and scientists in the world have by words or action endorsed Trump as a legitimate person of the business community. I am not mentioning names like “hedge fund” entrepreneur Jeffery Epstein, court public intellectual Steven Pinker, and disgusting butt kissing Lawrence Krass.
     
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    The uproar over Trump's taxes (illegally obtained) is an example over the ignorance of most of the lefts business running skills. Those who have started a business and know what it means to take a loss for said business know that deferring their taxes to a later date is the only thing that keeps a lot of businesses alive longer than 2 years. The left, as you see with 99% of their representation, don't have business owners, they only have academics and lawyers who push radical ideologies that don't work in the real world other than to drive their lowfo base into a hissy fit and riots over something they are completely ignorant about.
     
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    As I always say in these situations. Blame the tax code, not the people who use it to their advantage.
     
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    These people would be complaining Trump used the elevator to get to the 100th floor instead of the stairs. They use the elevator as well, but they only go to the 15th floor.
     
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    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's what Elizabeth Holmes said...but now she says she's "mentally diseased." That's what happens when one embraces the radical ideology of Ayn Randian fascism.
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    I own a business, and I don't know what it's like to receive $71 million in tax returns after not paying any taxes.

    10 years of not paying any taxes is not the way to keep a business alive. It's a way to cheat. Maybe it's a legal way to cheat (I said "maybe"... it has yet to be seen). But I remember when Republicans hated freeloaders. Who would have guessed that it would be Republicans who would put one in the White House.
     
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    So people are mind controlled into abusing the tax code?
     
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    DUPLICATE
     
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  9. Kyklos

    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    More on Steven Pinker, the King's courtier spewing the virtues of anti-ethics. The number of progressive intellectuals "cancelled" since the WWI purge of progressives by Woodrow Wilson (Palmer Raids), and 1950s anti-communist purges of unions and movie industry (House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), and from 1969 onwards known as the House Committee on Internal Security,) until today could fill a football stadium.

    It is the apologist sophist for the oligarchs that have unlimited resources in a monopoly media system, with Neoliberal university Presidents and Professors that complain of "cancel culture." Notice that the term is not saying who is cancelling who. Also, this is a distraction and counter-attack in response to stories of Harvard professors with Jeffery Epstein. What we got here is a ethical credibility problem. No professor in academe would criticize Pinker, otherwise they would be fired! I am not in academia, so I will say it.

    It is these very same institutions that cancels hundreds of thousands of students by promoting Ayn Randian fascism and suppressing criticism of political economy.


    "The moral case for fossil fuels, it turned out, was a Steven Pinker–esque tribute to the bright side of human progress. “The world is better than ever,” Epstein declared, thanks in no small part to energy derived from fossil fuels. Environmentalism is thus anti-humanist. “People are just looking for negatives about fossil fuels,” he lamented. “They’re not looking for positives.” He then drilled the crowd on some useful rhetorical flourishes that he has passed on to policy-makers. (“To paraphrase Atlas Shrugged,” he said, “I want them to have the words they need.”) When he pulled up the famous “hockey stick” graph showing a dramatic spike of atmospheric carbon levels after the industrial era, he told us that it actually charted a great saga of “human flourishing.”--Steven Pinker in The Last of the Ayn Rand Acolytes

    Pinker is paid to praise Ayn Rand. So we know what he is, but we don't know the price. These are not the words of an admirer of Enlightenment values.

    Hey, Pinker! Where were you when the famous anthropologist David Graeber was terminated from Yale?

    Hypocrite! You are a disgusting person....and so is Epstein for that matter.

     
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    I don't think American businesses are fundamentally dishonest.
     
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    No, they're fools if they fail to take advantage of every LEGAL deduction. That's not abuse, it's common sense.
     
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    I remember when freeloaders were considered "subhuman" by the right. But now they put one in the White House, and suddenly freeloaders are "superheroes".

    Go figure....
     
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    I posted in another thread, The tax code has been written by rich people, mostly those that are in congress. Why? To protect rich people that donate to those that write the tax code. Those rules apply to you and me as well, you just have to become rich first.
     
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    So legal deductions are freeloading. Got a good tax-preparer, do you? What would he say about you NOT doing the same?
     
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    Very well said.....I think that about sums up this thread. NEXT!
     
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    Trump has done much more to build America than merely paying income tax. He supplies jobs. He pays sales tax. He pays property tax. Some years he pays a lot in income tax. I think Golem, you should pay double what you owe. I think that would help justify the moral high road you think you're on. While your at it, take some non-socialist business courses with tax accounting.

    You do realize the top 3^% pay 40% of our tax revenue?

    I know, Golem, you like the millionaires that make their money by "serving" the government!
     
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    Another daily dis-information hit on Trump. It's going to come harder and harder up until the election day.
     
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    Well...weren't they "freeloading" when the poor made them?
     
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    This one took almost no time to debunk. The Times story itself contained that information. But you're correct. Fake news is coming our way faster and harder and more plentiful. It's what libs do to win elections --- rig them by lying to the rubes. Tell them the IRS can be corrupted --- until it's your candidate and then the IRS are saints, bet your sweet bippy. Ask Biden about his S-corp.

    In this case Trump's tax returns ALSO showed no Russian influence. The NYT story also mentions that.
     
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    Say again in English?

    You say deductions are freeloading, yet you say you have a business, which means you too employ them. If not, say so now.
     
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    Yeah. He "supplied" a job to this undocumented worker who paid more taxes than he did.

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    I supply jobs, I pay sales tax, I pay property tax and I pay much more than double what Trump pays in income tax. And I don't get a $71 million dollar check from the IRS.

    I think I should pay what I pay, and billionaires should pay more, and fake millionaires like Trump should be in prison. Not in the White House.
     
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    Post a headline and go on about the next one.
     
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    I must say I admire a business owner who does not deduct for lawful reasons but pays the unadjusted freight. That's almost as selfless as donating your entire profit from a job to charity, outright. Almost.
     
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    You hate Trump, therefore he should be in prison?
     
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    I don't say they're freeloading. Right wingers said they were freeloading when the poor didn't pay any taxes. They said so for years... until they got a REAL freeloader into the White House.
     
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