First time since 1869 though. 150 years of tradition flushed down the toilet to salve the butt hurt of an egomaniac narcissistic loser.
no but apparently voter fraud fraud is quite acceptable to the strict constitutionalists of trumpland.
Obama was man enough to do it 4 years ago after years of Berthergate and other slanderous attacks. Why do you think Trump is not man enough? Is it simply his fragile ego?
What’s the point? He was dismissed on day 1 as anyone worth respecting, being called a Russian spy Nazi and racist. And every major Democrat said he is personally responsible for everyone dying from Covid so why entertain them further? Where is there to go from there? Up? **** them. He burned the bridge and everything else Showing up won’t help him because Democrats hate him to the core because he dismissed Hillary. And Republicans can’t do anything but separate themselves as best they can. Showing up won’t prove anything to THOSE people. What’s there to prove at this point? Might as well slink away. Nobody is really going to care what he has to say at this point except his deepest admirers. Anyone on the fence backed off when he couldn’t just concede a month ago.
Pence kept his own consul prior to the joint session over which he presided. However, he certainly suggested that he was bound to follow the Constitution and law, and would act accordingly. Don't know, but I believe he made that known to Trump long before January 6th. I suspect that's the reason Trump called for the Rally just ahead of the January 6th joint session and the march on the capitol was timed for the session's beginning, in hopes that it would pressure Pence into throwing out the certified elector votes. I suspect, but have no actual proof, that once it was apparent Pence would not throw out the certified electoral count of the swing states, a signal was given to storm the building itself, to stop the congressional process, and possibly justify a Presidential declaration of martial law, to overthrow the U.S. government and nullify the 2020 election (or as a minimum call for another election in the swing states. Again, this is a "theory," backed by the timeline of events (the D.C. police reclassifying the crowd from a "protest" to a "riot," just at the time the joint session was starting, the lack of preparation by the Capitol Police, the failure of the Secretary of Defense to allow the Maryland Governor to send the Maryland National Guard to the Capitol at the request of Pelosi/Hoyer, the failure of FBI and Capitol Police intelligence, etc. MAYBE there are explanations, which explain these events, other than as an attempted coup, so I'll hold up on a final conclusion until an investigation is completed. Right now, it's just a hypothesis.
So would you vote for him in a future election? My guess in you would not. Neither will I. His political career is finished.
How long will this account last? Created just to mock people for the next couple weeks, then disappear like so many
who in the Oval Office has ever even had a mystery inner circle source claim they were trying to oust them? lol where there's a room like that so choke with smoke there's a great chance someone's lying pants are on fire!
How do you like ''Trump Trailer Trash Flash Mob''? Not completely alliterative but an apt and very funny description of the Soreloser Sedition Squad we saw a couple of days ago.
what was the point on chiming in during the endless years of overt right wing denial? it was sickening. now there are suddenly less nuts and eventually even the hardcore kooks and whiners will disappear to parler pits so this place can rock n roll in more positive and progressive discussions. facebook has always had me targeted for incorrigible honesty due to the crybaby loser factor so that media is limited, but shutting up and shutting out liars is always a good thing and this joint needed a good cleaning. hope you agree.
once again the effect muddled with the cause in lame defense. But I suppose Trump's complete lack of class is one of his more attractiv features to his faithful.
I think the storming of our Capitol, in what was a likely coup attempt, justifies a response more serious than an SNL skit.
you've been paying attention! this USCP fiasco is a MAJOR scandal about to erupt, they were intimately complicit in the stand down strategy, the entire detail needs to be removed now and totally cleansed just like everything else corrupted in Gmt. these last 4yrs. I'm not going the true coup route, that's for military forces, these goofballs made tidepods and pink fuzzy caps look deadly, but drive the matter at hand and the country in total into chaos for Biden out of pure spite? yep. traitor trump thot he could have a good giggle, now he's on the run.
Only if he is prepared to concede with grace and does not try to stir up a seditious mob again with his lies about stolen elections. I think it is a sad day for American democracy when 150 years years of tradition are thrown out and I would prefer he could man up and accept defeat but so long as he stays in his Mar-a-Lago basement and doesn't hold a counter rally/riot I'm happy. In fact I would be ecstatically happy if he never appeared in public ever again. Good riddance.
I don't think entire organizations were corrupted or taking part. More along the lines of the Reichstag Fire, which Hitler used to get the Reichstag (the Congress of the Weimar Republic of Germany) to vote Hitler (the Chancellor) the authority to implement "emergency powers" authorized in the Weimar Constitution. Once he had those, he never relinquished them, and Germany became essentially a dictatorship. Or, for the inside details of a coup, look at the subsequent coup attempt termed Operation Valkyrie, wherein the German military attempted to kill Hitler...we made a movie about it. I think Tom Cruise played the major military conspirator. You seldom find entire organizations taking part in coups, although they will tend to simply follow orders. The key is to build the coup around the people willing to play some role in it without knowing the whole picture. And, there may be limited commitment to the coup even among those taking part...sort of "Ok, I'll do that, but only if you get far enough successfully to require me to act...if not, I'll deny knowledge of any of it." It's also a dangerous time to react to events such as January 6th. The response has to be totally legal, under current law, with as transparent an investigation as possible. Then...let the chips fall where they may.
How can I know who I would vote for 4 years from now? LOL I would guess no. But I am glad he chose the Constitution over Trump in this case.
[ A self contradicting comment. Dictators, by definition, are not removed by a democratic election. If Trump was a dictator do you think liberals on PF would have been allowed to bash him for the last 4 years? Or do you think at some point there would have been a knock on the door? Do you think there would be a opposition party if Trump were a dictator? Dictators are people like Stalin, Mao, Castro, Hitler, etc. Why do liberals constantly use hyperbole and torture the English language? Ever think it might have something to do with perception management and advertising technology being used to brainwash people?
that's what I'm saying about every Dept., Bureau, agency, etc. which have always had republicans in them, having becoming internal timebombs that have severely damaged us to our core. there are many trump troops planning to deny and lay low while subverting. they gotta go and there's no time to delay, this is critical. I'm all in on letting the chips fall where they may many years from now after endless litigation while tt and his soldiers rot in prison. with full power Biden needs to lock'm all up so they can't interfere and eventually we can climb back off the old slippery slope.
A minor tense error. He was trying to become a dictator and nullify the election that removes him from office. And, both parties use "iffy propaganda" to make their arguments.