Trump will not attend Biden's inauguration

Holocaust deniers believe that the holocaust didn't happen. That sure as hell is a lie.

Its amazing actually that after 62 court losses you can with a straight face claim that these claims of massive voter fraud have not been vetted. Yet, the massive amount of recounts, audits, investigation and debunking explanations apparently aren't near enough for trumpists to overcome their utter faith in trump's bullshit.

But hey, try to take the high ground about his months of bullshit about massive fraud and how he won by a landslide all the while accepting the results of all the non battleground states while accepting all the down ballot votes in those he has tried to contest. But that can't possibly be a hint to trumpists as your post indicates.


But keep trying.

 

Are you saying you deny it or something?

His data was not vetted in court, the irregularities we know happened and not talking about all his claims but the ones we do know about should be subject to an Elections Commission as we had in 2005. And stop pretending I was supporting Trumps claims and believe he won in a landslide blah blah blah. He had a LEGAL right to contest the election, that's how it works in my country in which you do not vote nor know much about.

 

Oh pleeze you know nothing about my support and non-support of him and refuse to discuss on that level. You prefer to put words in my mouth and then debate those words not mine. You're excused.

 

You're point being what? What made all the riots and arson and stormings against governments, some local, some state including federal buildings and personnel. The White House, the Supreme Court not insurrection?

Ok that is one example are you claiming it is the only example. I listed just some of the leftwing insurrection above and previous message and you ignored it, why is that>

So getting snarky is all you to my

And where was the outrage and demand it be stopped on the left? The incoming Vice-President RAISED BAIL MONEY FOR THEM and demanded no charges. Shall we impeach her once she takes office. The first month of Trump's presidency 50 Democrat members of Congress signed a letter supporting impeachment because of the election.

 

try to keep up. the fact somebody may believe a lie to be true doesn't excuse the lie.

He had a legal righ to contest but not to simply regurgitate a huge steaming pile of bullshit. Kraken? come on man. myssterious trailers of ballots disappearing along with the driver? Caesar Chavez for shits and giggles? hey rube I got some water front property in the mojave that you'll love.

the big lie just kept getting more and more outrageous and you and yours didn't bother to lift an intellectual finger to assess the pile of evidence that it was a pile of bullshit. Nope you just accepted it blindly as being true because you wanted it to be.

I know exactly how things work in your country but of course I always expect you to pull that one out of some part of your anatomy when ya got nuthin' else.

 

you have a posting history man.

 

1) Trump LOST (Fair and Square).
^And, Everybody KNOWS That.

2) There was NO "Massive Voter Fraud" Affecting Tens of Thousand Votes.
^And, Everybody KNOWS That.

3) Everyone also KNOWS that Isolated Incidences of "Voter Fraud" (from both sides) exist in every Election.

4) Everyone also KNOWS that when Democrats use the term "No Fraud"--They are to referring to NO "Massive Fraud" (on the level claimed by RW Conspiracy Theorists).
(Obviously, "Some Fraud" (on a minor level, involving both parties) exists in every election).

5) Why would a Democratic-Led House and Senate, or any other Government-Sanctioned Entity, WASTE Time going down an Rabbit Hole (based on the Unfounded Conspirscies from people who have been Laughed Out of Court (Dozens of Times), and whose "Evidence" has less credibility than a Bigfoot Sighting)?

Trump LOST. It is OVER. Time to move on from Unfounded Conspiracies.

You're Welcome.

And, back on-topic, A good move by Trump.in passing on the Inauguration.
He is Unwelcome.

 

You claim you do not support and defend the loser trump, but you clearly do.

 

Hmm what difference could there be?? gee a real stumper.

The criminality of rioting is not at issue. the insurrection comes from the stated intent of the riot is to prevent a joint session of congress from certifying the electoral college vote clearing the way for jan 20. It was to take back the country, fight to save america, it was to be trail by combat, it was directly intended to interrupt the peaceful transfer of power.

Get back to me when you have figured out why your false equivalency is intellectually bankrupt.

Now you pose an argument of quantity in lieu of intent? Are you serious?


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And where was the outrage and demand it be stopped on the left? The incoming Vice-President RAISED BAIL MONEY FOR THEM and demanded no charges. Shall we impeach her once she takes office. The first month of Trump's presidency 50 Democrat members of Congress signed a letter supporting impeachment because of the election.[/QUOTE]

Yes the protesters who were arrested and charged for curfew violations and such were but nobody charged with serious felonies. Keep whining and flinging bullshit trumpian propaganda.

Perhaps you can stomach all those far right neo nazi, racist nationalists and wild arse conspiracy nutbars ******** on democracy while having orgasmic dreams of The STORM. They were front and center in the movement to question the validity of the election and planning the storming of the capitol.
How friggin stupid do you think americans are that this is somehow justifiable?

 

Well yes it is an issue and arrest have been made and expect more to come. And the intent of the leftwing anarchists' who tried to storm the WH was to prevent the President from carrying out his duties and the intent of the anarchist who stormed the supreme court was to prevent the confirmation of a Supreme Court Justice and the anarchy against all the statehouses and local police buildings and courts and other federal buildings was to prevent the proper function of government. So when you know what you are talking about in my country get back to me.

In my country intent is a key function of these laws, get serious.

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They were supported and bailed out by Democrats. And yes arrested for minor violations instead of the arson and looting and attacking police and government buildings.

How stupid are those who now view the Democrats sudden complaints an epiphany or something? That this is the first insurrection and anarchy we have seen. Are you, do you? You seem to be under the impression that we, my fellow countrymen not you, have not been subjected to over tow years of leftwing insurrection and anarchy. If that is the case then you are too uninformed about my country to try and engage in a discussion of it.

 

If someone states something the believe to be true but is not that is not a lie, a misstatement, but not a lie. I thought you spoke the Kings English.

Oh he was supposed to check with you first or something?

Making things up again I see.

Oh no you do not as I have repeatedly demonstrated with some of your post.

 

You keep falling back on an equivalency argument. Please try to keep up. It might be sufficient justification in your mind but its not going to fly with the VAST MAJORITY of people in your country and around the friggin' world (not that you'd know or care).

So you think there is equivalency to the fact that nazis,fascists, racial nationalists, and the rest of the scum coordinating the attack for weeks prior to Jan 6th? Because they were going to be the "its going to be wild" part of Trump's invitations to attend? Floor plans of the Capitol passed around?

Now, what was the intent of the rally to SAVE AMERICA? According to trump it was to STOP the steal. To directly interfere with the legal peaceful transfer of power by interupting the constitutionally mandated count and acceptance by both Houses. Now granted the rally attendees had three distinct groups. the merley gullible supporters who came for the show and left, the merely gullible who wanted to follow their Dear Leader to the Capitol, and the hard core far right scumbags who were their to fulfill their wet dreams.

Are you suggesting that trumps DOJ refused to prosecute black people who committed arson and looting and assault? Gee that seems awfully strange considering his EOs about government policy specifically in this regard. I'm at a loss to think why he would sign such a thing and then ignore it. Can you think of any reason?

I see you and yours have an even greater disdain for the symbols of American Democracy than Colin Kapeornick(sic).

And once again you run away claiming your citizenship somehow endows you with knowlege and understanding you have yet to demonstrate.

 

Let me clear that up for you,

If a person states something he believes is true, but it is not, then the statement is a lie but the person uttering it is not deliberately lying. And doesn't deserve to be called the liar they actually are regardless. Don't thank me, it comes from speaking the Queen's English.

Seriously? that's your witty retort? Way to defend the steaming pile of bullshit.

Are you telling me that the Kraken and the phone call and the 62 court losses and the tsunami of outraged tweets from your Dear leader and you can't smell the bullshit? Hope you health insurance, I hear ENTs are expensive.

I do recall three instances in our exchanges where you corrected me on a fact or process. Hey got expect to score the odd goal over a period of years.

 

Here let me educate you no it is not a lie, a lie is KNOWINGLY telling a falsehood, if a person states something they believe is true but it is not that is a MISTAKE and certainly nothing impeachable.

It was a response in kind.

I don't engage in your conjecture I deal with facts and what YOU claim to know.

Yea pretty basic stuff. How many times did you have to correct me when I complained about political matters in your country and told you what should be done about it?

 

It seems semantics is not your your forte. nevermind, justify whatever .

He isn't being impeached for believing his own bullshit. He;s being impeached for incitement to insurrection.

Said the guy who believes trump's bullshit.

My conjecture? Are you serious? You actually believe the Kraken bullshit? Or do you need a five star investigation taking months to arrive at the conclusion it was idiotic paranoid nonsense. Chavez would be splittin' his sides if he hadn't died in 2013. Conjecture.... dealing in facts
pure comedy gold.

never, OTOH, I have corrected you on NUMEROUS occaisons about political matters in your country

But I guess when ya got nuthin',

at least makes ya feel better.

 

Seems the meanings of words is not your forte but never mind you will try to justify anyway you can. He's being impeached because the of the petty vindictiveness of the Democrats but if they want to go down that road then we can impeach Harris once she takes office.

Believed what exactly?

Yes that is all you have presented.

Can't think of one. Try again how many times did you have to correct me when I complained about political matters in your country and told you what should be done about it?

 

No, he is being impeached for a second time for institgating an insurrection. My profession necessitated a deep understanding of the use of words and images to communicate ideas, influence opinion and prompt action. I know exactly what I'm talking about. there is an entire multi disciplined academic field that has continually evolved over the past 120 years or more. And that knowledge has been applied by virtually every human and organization on the planet whether they were aware of it or not. Society is both the lab and the market.

Dunning Kruger certitude is not a real replacement for actual knowledge and understanding.

Are you telling me you supported him even tho you knew he was shovelling bullshit?

I noticed you avoided having to state out loud you belive in Rudy's Kraken massive voter fraud fraud. thats only mildly amusing.

of course you can't think of one.

On the other hand I already admitted you don't comment on politics in my country because like a typical american you don't give a crap about anyplace else and that is reflected in both your overall knowlege of global politics and support for idiotic diplomatic and economic trumpian policies.

 

No he's being impeached because of the deraigned vindictiveness' of the Democrats. And if you are going charge him with insurrection by that speech then there is a BUNCH of Democrats who need to be charged. But do cut and paste the calls from Trump to storm the Capital and take it over with violence.

You and this deraigned Democrats should take heed of that.

I supported his POLICIES and routinely criticized his mouth.

That it would turnover the election, never said it would. That we need of FULL investigation into the election and what needs to be done to insure the integrity and improve upon it with this move to mass mail in voting.............you betcha.

Of course when it's not three

You are correct, the politics of your country and how you run it are none of my business, I have no dawg in that hunt.

 

May I remind you that Trump is President and swore a particular oath to go along with all that unique power he has. Seems you think hes just a regular private citizen mob boss.

I must say you cling to this whataboutism as if it is an actual defense.

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Its not his policies that is the problem. But by excusing his mouth because of his policies is morally and ethically corrupt.

I think the full investigation into the election fraud fraud is virtually guaranteed as is the incitement to insurrection charge and the Save America seditious attack on the Capitol which in its infancy is sweeping up the various scumbag fascist racist seditionists in large numbers.

And I won't betcha because its a sure thing.

Yet every Canadian has a dawg in your hunt. A fact that for some reason parochial minded americans just can't seem to grasp. No worries we are used to dealing with <COMMENT EDITED> our beloved southern partners.
We constantly chuckle over it when consuming our maple syrup covered funny looking bacon.

 

So this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

 

upon reflection I respond with projection.

 

Clever. But you boast about being a propagandist. I assume you sell your talents for money and convince people to spend their money on things they don't need.

 

I am retired. And yes, I was in the corporate propaganda game and yes I was very well paid to convince people to part with their money on both things they needed and things they thought they needed not to mention the extremely profitable accompanying doodads they didn't.