Columbus Police Fatally Shoot Black Teen Who Called Them for Help, Aunt Says

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  1. Pred

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    You joking=)
     
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    She was probably just playing her part in a grand conspiracy that only you will ever figure out.
     
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    looked like to me one of the white victims (may of been black too, hard to tell) was kicked by a black man, the other victim, a black women was attacked by the black girl with a knife - and that one was shot

    it that what other people got from it? hard for me to see, but if she was attacking someone with a knife in front of cops, that gonna get her shot, that is common sense

    people need to look at this without race imo
     
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    The video shows her trying to stab the other young lady with a knife. So we are now asking officers to wait and see what the suspect does before acting?
     
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    It's so amazing to me that several years ago on the subways of I think New York City, several Swedish(?) police officers on holiday in the US were able to subdue some dangerous and violent attacker on the subway, all without even having a gun. Are the Swedish police superior to ours?
     
  6. Andrew Jackson

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    It has already been established that the cop was within his rights to shoot her.

    Interim Columbus Police Chief Michael Woods said officers are authorized to use deadly force to protect themselves or a third party

    So, what's your point?
     
  7. Kal'Stang

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    Hmm...lets look at the differences here.

    One happened on a subway. In close quarters. The other happens with the cop several feet away with no time to physically get to the violent attacker before the victim would have been stabbed, possibly in the heart or some other major blood vein or even the head.

    And you expect them to have the same exact outcomes?
     
  8. Eleuthera

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    No, I don't expect exact outcomes, but I do expect the cops to see shooting a youngster as the last resort. My understanding is that police training emphasizes that.

    WTF didn't he taze her or attempt some other resolution?
     
  9. rkhames

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    The case in Minnesota where a white carjacker was shot proves that they only protest blacks shot, no matter how justified, by police. In Minnesota, they protester started heading to the scene of the carjacker shooting until they learned that the carjacker was white. Thus ended the protest!!!!
     
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    Tazing doesn't always work. The distance away from the perp has to right, I'm guessing the perps weight would reduce the shock effect. I believe the cop made the right choice.
     
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    dont shoot her, she’s just taking a bit of arm off. Sure.
     
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  12. rkhames

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    Don't you think it is funny that mass shootings are only called mass shooting when they believe the shooter was white. But minority gang shooting are not categorized as a mass shooting? It seems racially biased to me.
     
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    That is no way to defend yeself from a knife attack..
     
  14. Moonglow

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    It is a mass shooting if it involves three or more people.
     
  15. Kal'Stang

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    Then maybe you shouldn't have used such horrible comparison.

    Tasers can be lethal. And since the the violent attacker and the victim were in contact a taser could have quite possibly killed the victim just as much as it could have killed the perp anyways. Another reason to not use a taser is that in order for a taser to work both prongs must insert themselves into the person. Which doesn't always happen. Which means the victim would have been stabbed anyways. Another possible reason is that the officer was just too far away. They only reach so far ya know.

    And there was no other solution. None. By the time the cop fired his gun the attacker was already on the downward swing.
     
  16. MJ Davies

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    I Google'd that but didn't see where the protestors left the scene. Do you know of any articles with that information?
     
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    There could hardly be a video better showing rapid, effective reaction in a dangerous situation. Tarantino could not have choreographed better. Unless that bodycam is entirely fake, what the policeman did was entirely correct.
    The guy who kicked the girl on the ground might well have received some attention as well, the coward.
     
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    Not if it is gang related. In the town that I live in, there have been several shooting where a gang member shot as many as seven in a rival gang. But they are not included in any mass shooting statistics. There are many gang shooting is Chicago, LA, NYC and Detroit have more then three victims, but you will not find them in any mass shooting databases. The FBI specifically ignores gang shooting in their mass shooting lists. Why? What makes gang shooting different then mass shootings?
     
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    I looked this up and this explains why that is. It makes sense to me to differentiate between a person that sets out to kill multiple people who are unknown to him/her and mistakenly shooting several people while targeting one. Also, the media usually doesn't use "mass shooting" when all the victims are known to the killer (ie. when someone kills their entire family).

     
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    Actually, the protestors were in front of the Governor's house. When they heard about the carjacker shooting. They took a knee, and then announced that they were heading over to the scene. When it was learned that the carjacker was white, they decided to go to Brooklyn Heights instead.

    BLM protesters rally for victim, leave after learning he was white carjacker (nypost.com).
     
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    You might want to check out the FBI's mass shooting data base. Not all mass shooting involve involve people that are unknown to them. Many include people killing multiple family members. This is no different then killing members of a rival gang members. Yet, they are treated differently.
     
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    So all the mass shootings in this link were carried out by white people?
    https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
     
  23. MJ Davies

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    No, I didn't mean all of them are. Generally, though, a shooter that kills a group of people (3 or more to fit the definition) is only called a "mass shooter" when the victims are not his/her family and it's a one time incident (versus a serial killer).

    To me, it makes sense to differentiate between mass shootings (as described above) and gang-related mass shootings because the motives are different. A mass shooter almost always has had some kind of mental health crisis that propels him/her to go on a shooting spree. Gang-related killings are usually based on rivalry and revenge. A mass shooter can sometimes seek revenge but it's usually directed at a specific person or persons while a gang-related killing is directed at *anyone* in the rival gang.
     
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    Good shoot, I don't know how anyone could say otherwise?
     

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