Demographic change in vaccinated people, and reasons to drop hesitancy

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  1. independentthinker

    independentthinker Well-Known Member

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    Then prove it. So far I haven't seen what any of these people died of and no one on the left seems to even bother to care. If they died from something other than the vaccine then prove it.
     
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    According to stats about 7,500 people die in the US every day due to causes. This reporting system only records the number of people who died shortly after being vaccinated, not everyone who just happened to die. The reporting period has been about 10 months, which would total over 2 million people who just happened to die during this 10 month period and since 77% of the US has received at least one shot, that translates into over 1,700,00 people who just happened to die after receiving at least one vaccination. That's why the reporting system only reports those who have died shortly after vaccination and their deaths can't be explained - over 8,000 of them. So, no, it is not just a number of those who just happened to die after being vaccinated.
     
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    If you think like a leftie then you are a lefty. If you were an independent thinker, please name the last Republican you voted for. And don't try throwing that back at me because I vote a mix of parties every election and have for many, many years.
     
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    Old people are on Medicare and they are dying of old age and other ailments that catch up with them in their senior years.

    ONUS is entirely on YOU to prove that their deaths were related to the vaccines.

    You have SQUAT as usual.

    SAD!

    :roflol:
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    PROVE that there are NO investigations.
     
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    Now YOU are just pulling crap out of your nether regions.

    SAD!

    :roflol:
     
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    Do you have a source that confirms that the 8,000 deaths you keep referring to can't be explained?

    Do you know who reported these 8,000 deaths?

    You seem to be certain that these reported 8,000 deaths are cause for concern, but never provide any data at all to support this claim.

    Again, you provide no data to back up your claim that these 8,000 deaths that you constantly refer to are cause for concern.

    Either provide the data to back up your claim, or stop spreading misinformation.
     
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    The fear porn is being spread by people afraid to get a shot that hundreds of millions have been given without any statically relevant negative impacts.

    Weird that you try to say i am living in fear, when i am not the one trying to scare people on an online message board so i can justify my own fear of getting a shot that has been given hundreds of millions of times.
     
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    It is pretty amazing that someone is so "tech challenged" that they believe that IMAGINARY links exist to the CDC that support their CONSPIRACY claptrap.
     
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    You are the one proposing you know the cause of death, the onus is on you to prove the claim you are making.
     
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    Prove that there are. The absence of proof that there are investigations proves that there are no investigations. I'm perfectly willing to let someone shut me up with proof but there are no investigations.
     
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    It's right on the CDC website! They have gone into detail about adverse events related to the vaccines but not one detail about the deaths. Why not?
     
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    If 8000 deaths shortly after vaccines have been reported to the cdc then wouldn't this be a concern enough to be investigated? 8000 dead people after vaccines and the cdc doesn't even want to find out why? Where are the investigations? Where are the investigation results if they were investigated? The cdc doesn't want to know why because it would hurt their vaccination drive, so they just sweep it all under the rug.
     
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    Obviously it isn't swept under the rug, it's right there for everyone to see. You are spreading fear porn by suggesting that those people died from the vaccine when there is absolutely 0 evidence to support your fear. Yet you continue to spread fear to rationalize your own fear. Stop being afraid.
     
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    When Biden states that any employer with more than 100 employees (arbitrary number) must require the employees to either be vaccinated or tested weekly, and employers start firing employees because they are not vaccinated, that is coercion. I've posted plenty of links, read back.
     
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    Translation. I don’t live in fear of the virus with such great odds. The vaccinated wanting to be protected from the unvaccinated proves without a doubt the vaccinated live in fear. At least that is the fear porn being pushed.
     
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    The only people who are afraid at this point are those trying to convince everyone that the vaccine is going to hurt them, when most of us have already gotten it and know the people saying the vaccine is dangerous are full of crap.
     
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    So now you are admitting that over 8000 people have died shortly after being vaccinated. Yes, it is all there to see. If the number isn't correct then the cdc needs to tell us what the correct number is. Until then it is currently at 8390 until they prove otherwise.
     
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    I think far more than 8,000 people have died shortly after getting the vaccine. Probably over 50,000 depending on how you define "shortly". You have yet to provide any evidence that those deaths are connected to the vaccine.
     
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    The CDC reported it. If the number is wrong then the CDC has an obligation to show that the number is wrong. They aren't even trying.
     
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    I don’t care what you do to your own body. Not my problem. The vaccine has caused proven injury and death like Thrombocytopenia so saying it doesn’t is putting your head in the sand.
     
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    I don't care if you get vaccinated or not, but you should stop spreading misinformation. it is irresponsible.

    Hopefully you don't work for an employer who puts in a mandate as a condition of your employment.
     
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    You think facts are misinformation. Fascinating.
     
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    Yes, facts without context is misinformation. You are intentionally spreading misinformation. You are part of the problem.
     
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    Actually, billions of times by now, more than two billion, getting close to 3.
     
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