Demographic change in vaccinated people, and reasons to drop hesitancy

Coercion. You might want to read up on the word.

 

Yea, it's pathetic that the government is having to resort to these tactics to get people to do the right thing, yet here we are.

 

Apparently your idea of 'the right thing' involves a violation of bodily autonomy. Let me know what the ripple effect of that might be....

 

I remember having to get vaccines to attend school 40 years ago.

Suck it up and be an adult.

 

Nice dodge. Ignore it, and hope for the best, eh?

Since you have no knowledge about me, your childish insult really just doesn't cut it.

How about actually discussing the topic instead of pointless insults?

 

I'm sick of people acting like putting in mandates related to a vaccine is something new. So yea, get over it and stop acting like a baby about it.

 

Why isn't someone investigating why over 8,000 people have died shortly after being vaccinated?

 

I wish you would explain that to your fellow lefties. They seem to deny that people have died from the vaccines.

 

8000 people have not died from the vaccine.

 

It hasn't been debunked. It's right on the CDC website. Are you a fact denier?

 

You should talk to dairyair. At least he is not a fact denier.

 

All I am asking for is some evidence to support people's claim that 8000 people have died FROM the vaccine?

No one has anything to back that up other than VAERS which is no more accurate than an internet poll, and even that doesn't actually show causation.

 

Since you are unable to actually discuss the topic and feel attacking me without knowing a thing about me is constructive or worthwhile, you have yourself a lovely day.

 

yea buddy, same to you.

 

The vaccine is an imperfect solution because the American and Chinese inventors of this virus used a corona virus, which causes infections in mammals, birds, and humans*. If they used one that only infected snails, we would be pretty safe. This constant variation from type is why the effect of the vaccines is so variable.
Having said this, corona viruses mutate a lot. We experience this with seasonal colds. Covid is going to be with us for a long time because scientists made a bad call. We are actually demanding our leaders stop a virulent common cold like pathogen and we are bitching that they haven’t gotten a cure by now. Slackers!

*Wikipedia:

Someday in a future screwup, they might damn near kill us all.

 

All I know it is that people who had mumps or measles are not forced to be vaccinated.
For some reason so called "vaccine" that is not really vaccine fiercely forced on everyone without any kind of scientific justification

 

That doesn't mean anything. You have no evidence to back up your concerns, only a feeling.

 

Same as you.
You have zero evidence that vaccine has meaningful effect on population.
John Hopkins university has data that clearly tell us that
1. Vaccinated people are still catching virus.
2. People are dying due to COVID-19.

Apparently vaccine is not effective against Delta variant.
Injecting the vaccine every 6-8 months is not a solution since it will mess up immune system.

 

Vaccine is effective. Plenty of data to show that is a fact. If you haven't seen it, you are actively avoiding it.

Yet, anything that supports your confirmation bias is legit no matter who says it.

 

Why are you a science denier? If these 8000 people didn't die from the vaccine then what did they die from? The CDC won't tell us.

 

Ah, now I understand what you're saying. You're saying that the CDC posts stuff on it's website that is not accurate and should be taken with the same grain of salt of internet polls. I thought it was you guys who said you would listen to the experts and follow the science and now you're saying that the CDC posts fake news.

 

That's why I think it's friggin stupid to destroy our lives trying to prevent the inevitable. I went to get an antibody test this morning and after blood was drawn the Dr told me that if I am vaxed
(I am) that there would be antibodies in my blood so the only thing this test will tell me is the numbers. Maybe the government should gently encourage people to get the jab and stop trying to force the square pegs into the round holes by scaring the **** out of us.

 

Yes, I see plenty of political interpretation of data, but no real data supporting indiscriminate vaccination has been presented.
It could be that vaccines helped some people against Wuhan virus, but that virus long gone and we are now in new reality.

 

Could you link the CDC website where it shows that 8,000 deaths were caused by the vaccine?

 

The VAERS asks for ALL deaths to be reported to them if the person was vaccinated. So, of course, this results in thousands of reports being made that have absolutely no causal relationship with the vaccines whatsoever. People are impressed with this 8,000 reports made... apparently not knowing that the average of deaths per day in the United States (as per 2018 data before the pandemic, because with the pandemic it would be even higher) is more than 8,000+ deaths per day (I gave the precise number of 8,000 and change earlier in this thread). So if 65% of the population already got at least one dose of the vaccine, 65% of the expected daily deaths from all causes is about 5,200+ deaths per day. Therefore in just two days there are more deaths naturally occurring from all causes among the vaccinated population, than the ENTIRE VAERS set of reports regarding this issue. So it's really negligible, considering that we've been vaccinating not for two days, but for 10 months.

People continue to die of other causes, of course; the vaccine doesn't prevent cancer, heart attacks, etc.,... most doctors don't bother telling the VAERS (or else the VAERS would have close to 2 million reports in 10 months) but maybe some goodie-two-shoes doctors remembered to notify the VAERS (given that VAERS wants all deaths reported to them, not only the ones with a well-established causal relationship), resulting in these 8,000...

Likely only a couple of handfuls of these (literally), were ACTUALLY caused by the vaccines, since the vaccine-related biggest killer, Cerebral Venous Sinus Thrombosis, doesn't tend to happen to recipients of the mRNA vaccines Pfizer and Moderna, and happens only minimally with the J&J which has been given much less often in the US. CVST seems to be a real concern for the AstraZeneca shot but that one hasn't even been approved here. So, only some very rare cases have killed a very small number of Americans (much worse in Europe with the AstraZeneca, but even there, fairly rare and much less frequent than Covid-19 deaths).

So, the SAME people who are fast in considering that the smallest co-morbidity for someone who dies from Covid-19, means that the person died from that co-morbid condition rather than from Covid-19, are fast to consider that regardless of the multiple and vaccine-unrelated causes of death for those 8,000 deaths that were reported to VAERS, it MUST have been the vaccines, not the person's co-morbid conditions.

It's incredibly hypocritical.