Sotomayor compares fetus to brain dead person, says fetal movement doesn't prove consciousness

Is she so different from the unwillingly paying taxpayer?

 

the morality in which I ascribe to places value on human life.

if he doesn't want to take the responsibility he should probably try and be a lot more careful about impregnating women see I'm not sexist or misogynistic the same standard applies to both you are making two different standards so you are projecting your foibles on to me because you can't argue this point that I'm making.

it's not complicated a person's actions have consequences and they bear the responsibility for them. It's as simple as it gets regardless of sex.

I find it too pathetic to laugh at you that you have to rely on such a gross mischaracterization.

Your argument is so incredibly poor you have to pretend that I'm out to get women because I want to apply the same standard to both men and women.

I want to treat the sexes as equal and that's in a front to you because you think women are lesser.

I'm sorry you think equality is wrong and you think treating women as equal means treating them as stock farm animals that's the problem you have and I can't help you with that.

well yes they are if you don't meet your biological needs you will die every living organism in the universe is a slave to its biology.

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A fetus is not a baby.[/QUOTE] so it's like a toaster or a giraffe when does it magically snap into baby hood? The point at which you can't bear to kill it?

Cry your little eyes out about it. I'm going to refer to a baby as a baby whether it has been born or not because I don't need to make up special little words to feel better about justifying genocide you do.

 

There's no such thing outside of someone who was raped or someone who is ignorant. Having sex is how people and animals become pregnant if you don't know these things you shouldn't be having sex you have a lot to learn.

I don't support hedonism so sex without consequence is a lie. If you believe in such debauchery there is and can be no common ground at all.

And before you get on your white knight horse this goes for women and men and even gay people.

 

Indeed it is a slur intended in the same manner as the n word, or the long f word, or the k word, or the c word, etc.
Its meant to be a purely ad hominem statement based off of normally immutable qualities that have exactly nothing to do with the logic or lack thereof of any argument advanced by that person.

 

No. Taxation is theft. Look for your pwns elsewhere, brother.

Just because the sex is consensual it does not make the pregnancy that may follow consensual. Unlike animals, human beings do not have sex solely for reproductive purposes. In fact, most sex is for the sheer pleasure of it.

What is hedonistic about pursuing sexual pleasure?

Gay sex does not result in pregnancy.

No, your morality is directly immoral as it suggests one acts against one's own interest choosing that which makes it impoosible to live life to the fullest. You are an altruist who demands the actual human life sacrifices itself to the potential life and that is immoral.

And having an abortion when one does not wish to be a mother is responsible. What is irresponsible is giving birth to an unwanted child.

But, you are out to get women. Anti-abortion policies result in innocent women suffering.

Only women get pregnant and there is therefore no way to frame this as a matter of equality.

Unlike animals we possess reason and free will which means we can choose our own actions and form our own judgement to guide those actions. Human beings are thus not slaves to their biology.

No, a ZEF is a ZEF. Why is this so hard for you to understand? And there is no magic involved in birth. It takes 9 months for a baby to be born and it does not gain persoonhood until birth.

When you call it a baby you are the one making up special little words. I call things for what they are, but it does not really matter what you choose to csll it. Abortion is still moral.

 

That seems to be a standard behavior if someone doesn't agree with you say something about them personally.

Then the guy tried to tell me he wasn't talking about my sex life. As if that would be relevant in the slightest to the subject.

 

I don't care if it comes off as immoral to you. Sweet cereal we don't adhere to the same value system.

I would say it's irresponsible to become pregnant when you don't want to be.

the boogeyman argument isn't ever a really a good one. Further this isn't about women. I think men should be held responsible for their actions too.

For you to pretend that anyone who doesn't agree with you is somehow part of a couple or a conspiracy to get people has got to be the most banal thought that passes through your skull.

yes there is watch this. Both parents should be held equally responsible because they are.

the way you would prove this to me is to stop drinking water and not die of thirst so get cracking on that one.

I'm not talking about hand soap.

it isn't you use new speak to talk about an unborn baby so you can feel better about advocating for genocide.

It's not that I don't understand it it's that I reject it. I don't think it's right to exterminate 55 million people.

I'm not the one that thinks a fetus magically transforms into a baby the moment it's born that's you you need those words you need that failed logic to protect you from the guilt of advocating for exterminating people.

no. Human infants born or unborn are referred to as the babies I didn't invent that term.

You have to call it a fetus so you can feel better about advocating for killing it.

a fetus is a term for an unborn baby you pretend those things are two different things. You are sick and unborn baby and a fetus are two different things so you can feel better about killing it. It's kind of like when the Nazis are referred to Jews as something other than human so they can feel better about killing them it's the exact same thing.

Further I don't care what you consider moral. You are justifying very despicable behavior. I do not adhere to your backward anti-morality so telling me that something is moral to you means that it's probably immoral.

 

Why do you think having sex is irresponsible?

Of course it is about women -- They are the ones getting pregnant, aren't they?

Anti-abortionists are not enough aware of their opinions to be part of a consipiracy. Most of you do not understand the horrendous implications of your own beliefs.

So, having casual sex should be a crime?

Human beings have the capacity to reason and even to do something as basic as drinking water he has to use it. Water-drinking is not an automatic reflex for us as it is for other animals. Millions and millions of people all around the world are dying because they do not have access to clean water.

The only Newspeak being utilised in the abortion debate is the term "unborn child" or, what it actually means, "unborn born".

It is not magic. For a guy presenting himself as a friend of science you are worryingly unfamiliar with science. Is science magic to you?

"Unborn infant" lmao.

I have to call it a fetus because it is a fetus.

There is no such thing as an "unborn baby".

The dude with a Kekistani flag as his profile pic is calling other people Nazis.

I bet you cannot even define moral.

 

I don't and I never said so. Why do you keep fabricating strawman fallacies?

not personally.

You have to pretend that because you don't have a valid point

abortion is not a cure for anything.

no.

thus there shouldn't really be a need for abortion.

no women who were pregnant were said to be with child for millennia. It's not new speak the crap people invented to separate a fetus from a human is the new speak and the purpose of doing that is to feel better about killing them.

I'm not the one pretending human beings begin at birth.

all you can do is cry about semantics because it's important to you to distinguish a fetus from a human.

It isn't important to me does she won't hear me crying about words.

you support eugenics I laugh about trolling which one's more Nazi like

Again it doesn't matter I don't adhere to your value system I find it to be bankrupt I know you feel judged and you don't like that it's because your viewpoint is wrong not because I am wrong about morality. That's why you're defensive about it.

My views on morality are sound and logical. I don't need to cry about semantics I don't need to pretend that a meme is somehow Nazism I don't need to accuse you of being out to get people that's all your cope.

If you got to do that kind of stuff to feel like your morality is correct then there's probably something wrong with your morality.

 

Yes, they bear the responsibility for their actions, not YOU.
That's why the pregnant one decides what responsibility she wants to bear.

LOL, referring to scientifically correct words as "special little words" is clearly denying science and showing a need to use your own "special little words"..

 

You: "This door is an unopened open door."
Me: "Don't you mean closed?"
You: No. Haha, that is just newspeak. Don't be so focused on semantics. If it is not an unopened open door what is it, a toaster? Haha."
Me: "No, it is a closed door."
You: "Haha, Nazis also made up new words to close the door on people, haha."

 

All the people that deny science love to tell other people how they deny science.

It's called projection.

 

So you can't argue against my point.

That's okay I know you couldn't I knew it before you even responded to me.

 

I did, but you ran to the mods and had it deleted.

 

Well I didn't say anything to the mods but perhaps make your point without violating the rules. I really would like to hear legitimate argument against my point.

 

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Yes, they bear the responsibility for their actions, not YOU.
That's why the pregnant one decides what responsibility she wants to bear.







LOL, referring to scientifically correct words as "special little words" is clearly denying science and showing a need to use your own "special little words"..

LOL and science deniers insist they can use any word for anything....that would be you insisting a fetus is a "baby"

 

Projecting.

 

What point?

 

You mean like when people who are openly waving the Kekistani flag are calling other people Nazis and excusing their own behaviour with "I am just meme:ing to own the libs"?

 

So that's why you can't make an argument you have no idea what you're arguing against.

 

I don't understand what point you're making here is there one?

Is it that I have to respect Nazis and not make fun of them?

 

Nazis deserves no respect and should be ridiculed and belittled at any moment.

My point is that it is pathetic and dishonest of you to comparing my position to being a Nazi,

 

you've cried twice about me making fun of them.

well you do support eugenics.

 

No, I don't.

 

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