Sotomayor compares fetus to brain dead person, says fetal movement doesn't prove consciousness

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  1. cabse5

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    This post is disinformation.
     
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    There isn't a good reason to kill an unborn baby


    If you have sex and you are female you should know that is how babies are made.
     
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    Ya , so ?



    What gives you the idea that women don't know how babies are made? Are you implying all women are stupid ?


    AND, women only need one reason to abort, they want to.
     
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    How about her not wanting it? Or how about her not being able to afford it? How about her being way too young for motherhood? What if she is sick? What if the baby will be born sick?

    Her reason for choosing abortion is none of our business though.


    I friggen knew it! You just do not like the idea that women are in control of their sexuality and that they are enjoying sex. You just want to punish them for pursuing sexual pleasure and that is just truly misogynistic.
     
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    "Dontcha lyberals know a woman's proper role in society is to be a bread-baking birth-giver?" :D

    [He will reply with something along these lines and if not it is obviously what he is thinking]
     
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    The constitution is about people. It is not about embryos.

    And, I've known your problem with that for quite a while now.

    There are plenty of healthcare issues that make prioritizing the continuation of an embryo above all else a mistake.
     
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    What's to prove?

    The terrorists themselves have stated EXACTLY why they were there and what they intended to do.

    And, that group has included elected Republican officials who were there, taking part in the insurrection.
     
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    This leads to a model of society that is not like the one in which we live.

    Let's remember that in our culture and that of other many countries today, sex is part of a mature adult relationship that does NOT involve procreation.

    And, let's remember that ALL forms of birth control other than castration have a failure rate.

    The point here is that your model of society is NOT accepted.
     
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    Your rhetoric is trying to prove the insurrection (led by Trump).:roll:
     
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    The insurrection is very real. There are videos of it. There are the statements of those arrested.

    Trump's role is more murky. Did he work to fan the flames of hate for our democracy? Did he go farther than that?

    I'm sure the part Trump played will come out as the investigation and subsequent prosecutions proceed.
     
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    No it means that there's no such thing as unwillingly pregnant unless we're talking about rape
     
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    exact same as if a man doesn't want it or can't afford it you have to think before you act.
    birth control, what if she or the baby is sick do we kill people because they have a cold
    I disagree when you're killing somebody you have to justify that.


    so men are allowed to get out of paying child support for a child they didn't want and they had no choice in bringing the term.

    If not if you think men should be the responsible for the children they bring into this world it's just because you don't like the idea of men being in control of their own sexuality and that they enjoy sex. You just want to punish them for their sexual pleasure and that's truly misanthropic.

    See what a banal argument you made here?
     
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    so women are embryos?

    If you're going to say women have this right show me.
    what problem are you talking about are you attacking me?
    But there's nothing for which an abortion is a treatment for don't make straw man just except this reality.
     
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    Your "women are embryos" thing just shows how seriously you aren't listening.

    Abortion CAN be needed for the health of the pregnant woman.
     
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    This post of yours shows massive confusion.

    Women have every right to be treated as themselves, pregnant or not.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Ya , so ?



    What gives you the idea that women don't know how babies are made? Are you implying all women are stupid ?


    AND, women only need one reason to abort, they want to.


    Another : "" ..ya, so?"

    So what if a women willingly became pregnant....that isn't a crime and certainly shouldn't be PUNISHED by having her rights taken away or in any other way.......
     
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    that was your comment I asked for where abortion is a woman's right in a constitution and you said the Constitution is for people not embryos you implied women are embryos that was mocking you because what you said was dumb.
    Proof?
     
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    if I'm confused by the things you say that is your problem communicate clearer remove the confusion.

    If you can't then you are projecting.
    This comment makes no kind of sense.

    Maybe I'm not confused, perhaps it's you.
     
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    if she doesn't want to be she probably shouldn't.

    Nobody has the right to commit murder.
     
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    I was confused by this statement of yours:

    "if a man doesn't take precautions in order to not impregnate a woman he's cheated very differently than a woman he's actually forced into fatherhood if the woman forces him into it."

    Before that you said something about men being enslaved by women.

    Sorry, I don't understand those sentences by themselves and don't see how they could possibly apply to this thread.
     
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    I'll do my best to clear it up for you
    Amen cannot opt out of being a father during pregnancy this is a right he doesn't have. So he is indebted to a woman's choice for 18 years he gets no choice in it at all the only choice he gets is whether to have sex or not.

    If that is the expectation of men it is a double standard to have a different one for women.

    To do that means you have a view of them as lesser than men.

    Did I clear it up for you?
     
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    Well, I think I may better understand SOMETHING about what you are saying.

    But, the fact that prenatal health care decision making isn't symmetric should not be surprising in any way.

    It's the woman who is pregnant!

    So, it's not going to be a symmetric relationship.
     
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    So you believe men shouldn't have any rights?
     
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    The Jan.6 videos were of a protest. If protests are insurrections for example, ANTIFA and BLM are insurrectionists.:roll: Your rhetoric is unfathomable and undeniable.
     
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    Then do your civic duty and call the police and report these "murders"....why haven't you??
     
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