"American truckers distance from Canada protests"

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  1. Phyxius

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    Here's the unreported part: It does.
     
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    Most long haul truckers hardly need a mask. Their deliveries are to warehouses, and not much indoor activity for dropping off palettes.
     
  3. Pixie

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    There is no definitive line between over control of the state and their fulfilling its first duty...keeping the people safe

    You know what? You cannot expect to behave during a pandemic the same way you do at any other time.
    Imagine if people behaved the same during a war on their soil as they had done. You in the USA never were occupied, had your homes and neighbourhoods bombed and your food rationed so 5hat you were told how much of everything you could have and no more.
    Life in the USA stayed pretty much the same as it always does when your country goes forth and causes havoc elsewhere.
    For the first time in many living memories you were asked to give up a tiny part of your freedom not to wear something which may make the lives of other people easier
    Instead you are outraged enough to turn the little request into a vitriolic condemnation of your government which is trying to minimise sickness and death.
    It isn't about "rights and freedoms". They are still there.
    It is about your willingness to donate some of them for the greater good. Wearing a mask doesn't hurt. Doesn't even cause discomfort. Certainly nothing like being on a life support machine.
    No one is taking any of your freedoms away. No one can.
    They are asking for your help.
    Is that too much to ask of a US citizen who "loves his country:?
     
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    You can't compromise on rights and freedom. Guard them like the treasures they are, or you will look up one day and you won't have them.
     
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    Of course you can.
    They are guaranteed in your national documents and national psyche.
    Wearing a mask does not in any way make a coup d'etat closer or more possible. Get a grip. The idea is laughable.
    I hope there never is a ground war in the USA. You will be scrapping over the last sausage because you all have rights to it instead of sharing it and you will all starve.
     
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    It’s alright to be asked, but never mandated. We are not sheep.
     
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    Wearing a mask is a concession and establishes precedence for pretty much nothing. The guarantee is constantly under attack which is why compromise is a bad idea. The people who wrote those papers understood that and it's why they wrote them.
     
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    And, protecting individual freedom is why America is the longest lasting democratic republic in history. Now is not the time for us to give up our freedoms.
     
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    Absolutely. The world has more than two borders, though. I support all independent country's rights to have criteria for entry.
     
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    Theoretically
     
  11. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm far more worried about having already lost a vast majority of my 4th amendment protections than I am any mandate requiring I wear shoes... err, masks.

    Get back to me when you want to discuss very real rights being eroded, like no-knock warrants; FISA courts; civil forfeiture, etc.
     
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    No - you can leave, you just can't come back in. And where would they go to? The US has the same mandate...so they couldn't go there. Of course 90% of truckers are vaccinated in Canada - so that doesn't apply to them...
     
  13. mswan

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    I don’t disagree that we’re losing other rights as well. Among certain powerful elements in our society there is vicious hatred for average Americans making their own decisions.
     
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    With Liberals, Mostly peaceful RIOTS, BURNINGS and LOOTINGS and MURDERS are OK, if it's BLM and Antifa doing the Rioting
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    BUT! if it's a completely peaceful Trucker Blockade, Liberals want them arrested, FINED! and thrown in Jail.
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    Right.

    Like I said; wearing a mask isn't tyranny. It's a public health issue. This is what the founders meant when they said promotion of the general welfare. It's a legit use of government.
     
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    The General welfare clause does not grant any power to the government. It simply identifies a goal to be pursued WITHIN the enumerated powers, nothing more. The government MUST recognize the limits given the federal government.b
     
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    the damage these truckers are doing is gonna cost the tax payers billions

    not to mention the inflationary costs to the public
     
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  18. mswan

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    Federal government policies already cost the taxpayers tens of trillions. I’ll support the truckers.
     
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    don't whine about increased cost of goods then, as this is gonna cause inflation biggly

    and don't whine when the other side blocks traffic to get that they want
     
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    Give up your freedoms?
    Are they so fragile or have you been playing too many video games?
    Do you really think that virtually overnight someone can roll in, overcome your military, storm your capitol and try to prevent democratic process (they tried but failed) impose martial law and subdue your entire population's "individual freedoms"?
    Because you loaned the health of the nation your right not to wear A MASK??
    Give it a rest.
     
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    What do you mean "theoretically"?
     
  22. Pixie

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    But wearing a mask isn't some step in government !
    The govt is asking you to help protect the weaker citizens...the elderly
    The asthmatics. Those with auto immune issues. Lung problems. Etc etc.
    To suggest this request is a step on the road to tyranny is a huge fearful exaggeration and I suspect you have politicised it and reassigned it into another trebuchet.
     
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    Truckers have the people supporting them, their cause is just. That isn’t the case with leftist crybabies.
     
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    90% vaccinated because they were forced to be , not because they wanted to be . It’s a bit different when you submit someone because their lives depend on it . Many of those truckers that are protesting are vaccinated.
     
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    Asking? No they’re demanding, and I’m saying “Piss Off”
     

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