"American truckers distance from Canada protests"

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  1. Pixie

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    But this is what your democracy is for.
    Don't you trust it?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    even most truckers do not support these truckers doing what they are doing

    like I said don't whine when the other side blocks traffic to get that they want
     
  3. Pixie

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    What could you possibly have against wearing a mask?
    It isn't going to cause a coup.
    I have a bit more understanding about mandating vaccinations because health is a personal issue.
     
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    during a global pandemic no less
     
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    If they have a just cause they should protest. Civil rights protesters in the sixties were also strongly condemned. Too bad, they were right and they prevailed. Or, are civil rights no longer important now?
     
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    I don’t have anything against wearing a mask, or getting vaccinated, if it’s recommended. But, that’s an individual’s choice, not something to be mandated by government.
     
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    so doing the same if the US bans abortion, you would support.... my body, my choice?

    blocking the major roadways for days on end until the government allows abortions again
     
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    I will disagree with your decision if you choose abortion, but I don’t want government mandating anything either way.
     
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    good deal, I feel the same way, so glad you will support such protests in the USA if the right tries to take away that freedom to choose

    I do not support government mandates either, be it masks, smoking, ect.... but I do not support what the truckers are doing blocking traffic for days on end, but if they are allowed to do it, any future groups can too
     
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    The Southern border is leaky as a sieve. In theory it's a border but in reality it's pretty blurred.
     
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    But they will give them all back when the crisis passes. Just wear your mask and trust the government.
     
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    Are you suggesting truckers from Mexico are going to sneak past CBP ?
     
  13. Pixie

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    I can accept that.
    What i don't accept is that wearing one is followed inevitably by the downfall of democracy and the emergence of a totalitarian state.
     
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    The government can get a secret warrant, come into my house without knocking and kill me. Or, they can get a secret warrant and steal all my money. This is perfectly fine. Numerous "blue lives matter," types will be defending those cops for hundreds of pages.

    "Please wear a mask" TYRANNY!!!

    Gimme a break.
     
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    Does the USA not have emergency powers controlled by Congress?
     
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    We've been in a perpetual state of emergency since 2001.

    They are never going to return our powers of the 4th. They've got the sheep arguing over cakes and bathrooms for a reason.
     
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    I am quite sure a judge has been asked to approve the warrant and decide if granting it is justified.
    In no democracy can the police break in without one.
     
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    Then why do you behave as sheep and dont contact your congressman, use social media to reinforce your message and use your democracy?
    Or has it been tried and your Congress has democratically made decisions?
    And why didn't trump do something about it?
     
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    My fellow citizens agree that Congress is filled with useless criminals, but each and every American is certain that their three guys in Congress are peachy; it's the other 532 that are the problem.

    So, there's the problem.

    I don't vote for incumbents, ever. Posting on social media is pointless; it's a cesspool of marginal facts with even more idiots.

    Education is no longer valued in this country.

    Trump is the current problem; he's the most anti-fact, anti-science, anti-education president we've ever had. Here we are a year later, and his worshipers follow him more than they follow Christ. It's pretty maddening.

    This problem has been building forever. Probably since Reagan started getting the whole country drunk on credit.

    This country gets collectively dumber by the day. I'm just glad I'm in my later years; I can put up with this nonsense for another 25 years or so. If I were in my 20s or 30s, I'd be looking for a new home country.
     
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    Since you mentioned the Patriot Act I have been doing some reading.
    ISTM you don't need to worry unless you are a suspected international terrorist.
    Obama signed the last and current version, approved by the senate, in 2015. I am not too sure if any of it includes sunset clauses.
    TBH with the return of the Taliban, I wouldn't be too quick to tear it up.
     
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    Except it's a lie.

    Last time I checked, 93% of all Patriot Act crimes going through the secret FISA court were not related to terrorism, in any way.

    It's used to find drug users.
     
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    No
    Mandates are not invitations, and they don't say please as if it were a choice.
    as for your no-knock warrants: don't reach for your gun.
     
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    What's the point of having a gun if I'm not allowed to use it when someone comes in my home without announcing themselves? Seriously. Is that all you've got? I've made my point.

    Masks: TYRANNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    No knock warrants? Requirement for a healthy society.

    Gimme a break.
     
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    Probably
     
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    I don't have a problem with no knock warrants.
     

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