Kinzinger Introduces Use of Force Resolution against Russia

Wait a second. Who cares how Russia kills civilians? So bombing is ok but some chemical weapons are worth a thermo nuclear war? I do not think so.

 

I think it will matter. I used to think Putin was smart enough to reject a first use of WMDs. Now I am not sure about that.

 

This is not our war. Our objective cannot be Russia surrendering or regime change in Russia. To suggest that means you want a hot war, a world war. While I do not mind the idea of them being bogged down in a quagmire like we went through in Iraq I'm very concerned that our senile president and so many in congress seem to be totally unconcerned about this war ending. That should be the objective.

Kingzinger's authorization is moronic. Russia does not want to conquer Ukraine by nuking them. They would be putting their own troops at risk. Kingzinger just wants to act as the anti Trump who is tough on Russia! He could give a damn if China invaded us with a bio weapon or terrorists come into our country through our southern border.

 

You are sounding like Bush circa 2003. Don't forget the yellow cake uranium from Niger!

Are our allies signing on to a similar authorization? We have Sean Penn making policy for us now?

 

If Russia won’t use WMDs on Ukraine then what’s the problem? This is a congressional resolution, not a declaration of war. It just indicates to POTUS what the wishes of the congress are and whether he has the flexibility to escalate, if needed.
And why is such resolution being anti-Trump? He himself said that he’d send American nuclear subs to Russian coast a while ago. If a non-binding resolution authored by a republican is anti-trump, then what would you want congress to pass to be pro-Trump? If you think Trump would be more restrained - you better think again!

 

The same people who would not care if China took over California or Mexico took over Texas want a hot war with Russia because it is politically correct for morons to talk tough about Russia!

 

"Russia does not want to conquer Ukraine by nuking them. They would be putting their own troops at risk."



They've lost tens of thousands already and sent them into the fricken Chernobyl exclusion zone with apparently no training or safety equipment. Yeah, they really care about their cannon fodder!

 

I wouldn't want to lose those states, but I'd be willing to give up Alabama.

 

Vladimir Putin is the only one holding back the Russian Generals from making mincemeat of the Ukrainian administration and criminals. They want Putin to untie their hands, and to stop acting like a gentleman and treating them with white gloves.

So yes, maybe it would be better for the world if Vladimir Putin was gone. At least WWIII wouldn't be on his conscience.
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That is Trump disinformation!

 

Putin was the one who decided to invade. The facts don't care about your feelings.

 

Hey Mitt Romney. I'm against a hot war with Russia. Should I be arrested and executed for treason? You priggish pos!

 

Where the hell do you come up with these weird victim fantasies?

 

My 2 cents; even the use of a so called "tactical" nuke will be impossible to contain (unpredictable wind currents, etc.). Let's be honest, at some point, Vlad will have to be stopped since he's likely not going to stop at Ukraine given his reasoning to do what he's doing. Right now, he's threatened the entire world's food supply and well as energy supply. He timed this with the COVID 19 endemic, it's wasn't random. He likely waited also to see if NATO would be cut off at the knees before acting.

The US is doing the right thing currently, they are arming the **** out of Ukraine and will continue to weaken the Russian military just in case the world has to act as a whole. Unfortunately, Ukraine will pay a hefty but necessary & unplanned price.

 

He cannot roll over Ukraine how is he invading other countries? He knows he cannot invade a NATO country.

Russia does not have the power to threaten food supply. How is he cutting NATO off at the knees? Where do you get that?

That kind of hyperbole is making this worse.

 

Before quoting my post with obvious lack of comprehension, please do some research and re read my post. If you are unable to comprehend it after, I can't offer any help with that.

 

I don't think Kinzinger is acting tough. He's probably a liberal ideologue who believes in the Great Reset and one world order under corporate control where they will own everything and we will own nothing, but we'll be happy.

Russia is their greatest obstacle. They suffered 70 years of Western Marxist imposition, and will have none of it. This is what the war in Ukraine is really about. They want to weaken Russia, steal its assets and re-impose their ideologies on it, and to do that, they're willing to fight to the last Ukrainian.

 

I'm sorry but I just don't buy...well anything you've said. Nuclear war isn't about "destroying the world," but it is about destroying the United States as we know it. Seems if we're going to risk nuclear war it should be over something absolutely vital to the US, and Ukraine ain't it.

This entire Ukrainian invasion has made a Russian invasion of NATO far less likely, not more so. A Russian convoy of the type sent into Ukraine wouldn't get 10 miles into Poland before it's a smoking ruin by NATO (American) forces.

The only thing I get about your statements is that I understand where you come from. You're Ukrainian and no amount of American citizenship, baseball, apple pie, and Chevrolet is going to not make that the Motherland for you, in a way that America will never be. So are you willing to risk the US to protect Ukraine? Of course! It's your real home. America is your shopping mall, not the land you love, and when the land you love is in danger, you'll sacrifice the shopping mall in a heartbeat.

 

Maybe, but that has zero to do with the current direction of US foreign policy to make Ukraine's war our war.

 

You may be right, but I seem to be able to understand everyone else in this thread. You seem to be an exception.

 

I don't know what that means. What do you mean Russia doing enough to make sure the world doesn't get involved?

 

Well you're talking about the next war? Over fascism? In Europe?

You're not talking about this war?

 

So it sounds like you are saying yes.

 

By that argument there doesn't seem to be any need for us to get involved if, as you say, Ukraine can win this war.

 

That is not true, you have expressed confusion with more then a few people in this thread, multiple times.