23 Baltimore schools have zero students proficient in math, per state test results

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So we have these schools kids who can’t do math, what’s the problem? It can’t be money because you can’t buy intelligence or the will to teach, but that will be one of the excuses used as to why these kids suck at adding and subtracting. Do you think it might have something to do with the China virus lockdowns? Are they hiring bad teachers who just want to move meat from one grade to the next? How about bad parenting within single parent homes, where do they fit into this? Or do ya think it just might be the culture of certain areas not to really care about educating one’s self? For the parents who want their kids educated, should school choice be an option including charter schools? And let’s not forget the unions and how they can muck up a bottle of water.

    No matter what’s causing the problem, I’m sure when these students fail later in life they’ll place the blame on discrimination and racism. It won’t be the fault of the schools, parents or the kids; instead society will be blamed.

     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's all about the teachers and administrators. They can't control their classrooms or their students.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I’m thinking the problems lie in what you said along with all the things I mentioned.
     
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    we can do better

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    this is part of it, you have to expel misbehaving students, everyone suffers if they don't
     
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    Finally, an answer...
    Bad (Non-Existent) Math Skills in Baltimore...
    At least that explains why so many people think that 22.4% is "HALF the Country"...
    Our schools are failing...
     
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    Actually, kill themselves off, but that's close enough.

    Liberals wanted the new segregation. Liberals wanted no law enforcement. Liberals wanted teachers "who look like them".

    Now you have it. Reap the rewards.

    Just what you were told they'd be but refused to believe it.
     
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    Well well, mr. gaslight....
    Promoting the idea that it could be the parents that their kids aren't taught right in school.
     
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    How about you go source that liberals do not want kids to learn math.
     
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    The problem is a universal approach to education.

    Some school kids shouldn't do math. Some school kids won't to do math. Some school kids can't do math. Some kids enjoy math.

    They're all in the same classroom attending the same class by a teacher who's performance is measured by a standard that preserves the appearance of quality rather than the production of it. There's always an excuse to lower the standard to preserve the appearance of quality.

    At some point regulators are faced with the reality that they've lowered the standard so low that success means doing nothing at all.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What did you intend to mean with this sentence fragment?
     
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    Covid lock downs screwed kids over. Nevermind the bullshit trans crap or the CRT nonsense.
     
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    I agree there's not a single reason responsible for the decline in education. Just like there isn't a single solution (universal education). Sir Ken Robinson calls it the factory model of education.

    I don't care that some schools are producing children that are not proficient in math. What's more important is determining the student's individual proficiencies. What are the schools producing instead of mathematicians?
     
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    Exactly. The focus on testing has become such a joke that no meaningful data can come from those results. Zero passed to test? That's so unlikely that you have to wonder if something else is going on.

    One thing I noticed was that students didn't really care about the test. We no longer hold students accountable based on those test scores, therefore, they are meaningless to students.
     
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    Well the left has enlightened us to this new remarkable breakthrough that "math is RACIST" so I believe these kids are just trying to not be RACIST.
    Nothing to see here, just more of that liberal "logic"
     
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    Thought is racist.

    It must be stopped. Controlled. Perfected.
     
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    Zero passed the test, it almost sounds impossible.

    I seriously doubt every kid is incapable of doing math. I seriously doubt every teacher is incompetent. And I seriously doubt every parent doesn’t care about their kid’s education. Could it be possible the schools are teaching at the slowest student’s pace and all the other kids are never taught at the level they’re supposed to be at?
     
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    How about you go explain to all of us how it's the parents fault, to even single parents fault, when the teachers who are paid to teach math miserably fail their job.
     
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    Whom shall we blame for this atrocious grammar?
     
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    I see you're defaulting to explain your own OP, and are making me the topic.
     
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    I always attribute this to the local cultures of their societal bubble. All of the other reason you mentioned like covid lock downs and single parents exist everywhere in America and we do not see the same problems. My kids went to school with children of single parents and I have meet them personally and they are exceptional students and kids in general. The problem is in the neighborhoods where this is happening this has become the socially accepted norm. Failing math is not a big deal to the kids or the parents or their social groups. I gave you the same answer with crime. Once people think shoplifting and stealing is acceptable it becomes the norm.
     
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    Horrifying.

    It's heartbreaking to contemplate the future of the communities where those schools are located...
     
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    You are making less and less sense the more you post. What post of mine do you want me to explain?

    Are you under the false impression that I have indicated that parents are to blame for something?
     
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    Why don't you explain to us how parents aren't responsible for the education of their children?
     
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    Because I didn't post that question.
    How about you both give it a try.
     

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