It's Time for the Scientific Community to Admit We Were Wrong About COVID and It Cost Lives

At best, your source might claim antibody tests would establish effectiveness was less.

I'm not about to buy the book.

 

Because I know they're talking about effectiveness, not efficacy.

 

Efficacy is measured in a clinical trial. Effectiveness is measured in the general population.


“First, we must look at the difference between vaccine efficacy and vaccine effectiveness. There is similarity. Vaccine efficacy and vaccine effectiveness measure the proportionate reduction in cases among vaccinated persons. Vaccine efficacy is used when a study is carried out under ideal conditions, for example, during a clinical trial. Vaccine effectiveness is used when a study is carried out under typical field (that is, less than perfectly controlled) conditions (Principles of Epidemiology | Lesson 3-Section 6 (cdc.gov)).[ 1]

A vaccine may show efficacy in a clinical trial but be utterly ineffective when introduced at a societal level. This non-effectiveness may be due to unanticipated safety concerns (aka, excessive adverse reactions reported) or more subtle immunological reasons due to immune imprinting (aka, doctrine of original antigenic sin)( Monto et al., 2017)[ 2]. In all cases, a vaccine can only be declared effective after widespread deployment at a societal level, and a risk/ reward benefit has been determined.

For a vaccine against a disease such as COVID-19, where the risk from the disease is only to a segment of the population, and the overall risk to society is extremely low, there needs to be essentially no risk or adverse reactions from the vaccine. Pfizer’s need to hire 2400 personnel to deal with the unexpected adverse reactions of the vaccines, essentially precludes the designation of the vaccine as “effective”.”

— War Room / DailyClout Pfizer Documents Analysis Volunteers’ Reports eBook: Find Out What Pfizer, FDA Tried to Conceal by Pfizer Documents Investigation Team, Amy Kelly
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Here is evidence from Canada...



The unvaccinated 17% are doing 47% of the dying.

 

As I have pointed out many times before - this is meaningless data.

 

You explained nothing. It is meaningful data, even more so when you realize a lot of old people in skilled nursing were vaccinated and died anyway, and a lot of the unvaccinated were children.

 

I have done so many times. To learn anything from vaccination data the groups of people at high risk must be split out. The Canadian data does not do this therefore nothing meaningful can be learned. BTW those most at risk were not included in vaccination testing. Why is that? And why are the Canadians vaccinating children under the age of 4? Was this the result of a government mandate?

You made claims above. Now quantify them. And supply details on the health of those that were vaccinated and tragically died. Did they have preconditions? Did they die from vaccination complications?

 

Your claim that graphene oxide is not in the clot shots is wrong. Dissenting scientists and doctors and laboratories from around the world have shown graphene oxide to be present in numerous randomly selected vials of the serum. That you are apparently not aware of that fact is a sign of how misinformed you are. From the US to Spain to South Africa vials examined under microscope including electron microscopes have shown the presence of graphene oxide.

Now it's true that the pharmaceutical industry has been very secret about what's in the various batches. We do know that some batches have been far more toxic than others, so it's possible that some batches do not contain GO, but we know that many batches DO contain GO.

Glycol products may be in toothpaste and skin creams, but that doesn't mean they are good for you, and that they are being injected into the bloodstream is quite different than topical applications, though you will likely rationalize it otherwise. You might be happy to accept your poisoning by pharma, but I will not.

Those who fall for dumb propaganda are those who rationalize being poisoned to "protect" them from a virus with a 99% survival rate. You may enjoy being a crash test dummy, but I'll pass.

 

This is data from the entire country. They know who has been vaccinated, who ended up in hospital, who in hospital has and/or had covid because everyone is given PCR and antibody tests, and who died.

Are you referring to testing the vaccine for efficacy and safety before approval? Canada accepted data from other countries.

Very few little children were vaccinated in Canada because most children have little risk of dying of covid.

No children were required to be vaccinated. Some were vaccinated because their physicians determined they were at high risk of dying from covid.

They know who was vaccinated and who died.

They have extensive reporting of adverse effects from vaccination, but that's different from seeing who died of covid.




Consider... 84.2% have had at least two covid shots and they do 19.9% of dying from covid. A lot of the high risk people were strongly encouraged to get vaccinated, so their vaccination rates were well above 95%. The government sent public health workers into homeless camps.

 

No support for any of your claims.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccine-safety/summary.html

 

LOL Langley Man, you want me to believe Fidel's Little Bastard's health department.

But then of course you want me to believe Anthony Fauci too.

 

You keep making my case. The data is meaningless. And missing the point of the book I have referenced. The Canadian data lacks the granularity to learn anything from.

 

What on earth are talking about?

I wrote Fauci off when he lied about not needing masks. He knew respirators save lives and said he said what he said the protect the supply for healthcare workers. He's not on my good guys list.

 

There can be no true understanding without granularity. Covid affects a very specific segment of the population. Unless data is available on that segment it is meaningless. Vaccination data on people with extremely low risk to Covid is meaningless. Mandating inadequately tested vaccines on people who are at extremely low risk is dangerous and reckless and leads to tragic consequences as I have pointed out supported by my two fully footnoted references.

 

Separating the Canadian population into two age groups - under five years old and five years old and over is meaningless. It is well known and has been since early 2020 who is at the most risk to Covid and who is at extremely low risk to Covid.

 

To exercise power and control. Private sector doctors have never supported it.

 

Covid impacts most people, although it's deadly to only a few. We don't yet understand the long-term consequences of infection.

The Canadian data is on the entire Canadian population.

Where do you get this stuff? Talking heads on Newsmax, CNN, Fox, etc? We need to know might be at greater risk from the vaccine than the infection.

Mandating vaccines is a separate issue.

Canadians are choosing not to vaccinate the vast majority small children and many teenagers.

 

You proof is Newsmax BS?

 

They were separated because the vaccine data generated abroad didn't cover children under five and the shots weren't approved for even "at risk" children.

You're wrong. Different variants presented different risk profiles.

 

The Vaccine Gestapo lied to us more during COVID that most of us thought possible.

Doctors, Scientists Call On Mississippi Officials To Take COVID Vaccines Off The Market

"There can be no more administration of the COVID-19 vaccines in the state of Mississippi..."

GRAND JURY CALLED FOR

JACKSON, Miss.—The group of physicians, vaccine-injured people, and whistleblowers speaking at the Mississippi Capitol building on Monday and Tuesday are demanding that asking state officials to cease all COVID-19 vaccinations and to convene a grand jury to investigate its rollout in the state.'

'“Stop the shots” was the refrain of those who had treated COVID patients over the last three years and those injured by the vaccine.'

TIME FOR A FREE PEOPLE TO RESUME CONTROL

 

There is no meaningful information from under five and over five age groups which lack medical preconditions information.

 

The variants were all less dangerous. That’s how mutations work.

 

You have my sources.

 

Some little children have known conditions.

 

Not always.