Culture of Shootings , "Thoughts and Prayers" But No Solutions

Why is it exactly that you have so much more fun violence in the USA if it isn't because of the lax gun laws? Similar culture in Canada and it's much more rare. Same goes for most other developed countries, and many stable developing ones like Vietnam, where it's unheard of.

 

This is why they are anti-abortion, because they need more moving targets to feed their gun obsession. They continually talk out of both sides of their mouths, but we can see from their actions, they are NOT pro-life, just plain vanilla hypocrites.

 

Lol @ my typo. GUN violence.

 

that's a really bizarre position I guess the abortion is the most sacred right/rite crowd wants to kill the unborn before they can be shot? The people killing other people with guns are far more likely to be leftwing than conservative.

 

No movement in American Politics is based on more dishonesty than the Gun Lobby, aka NRA.

 

really-do NRA members lie why they support gun rights? NO. do gun banners-all the time
do NRA members know what an assault rifle is -mostly yes

do gun banners-of course not

 

Then prove it.

 

What? Just because you hire your killing done for you doesn’t mean it isn’t happening! SOMEONE is doing the killing whether it’s game animals or domesticated critters or crop pests.

This is one reason there is so much distance between the two sides on the firearm issue. One side is so far removed from realities of life like where food comes from and what it takes to produce it there is no way they can perceive firearms as the simple tools they are.

If someone thinks nobody has to kill to supply food today they are too far removed from reality to understand the actual utility of firearms.

That’s an unfortunate consequence of division of labor in wealthy societies I suppose. Hopefully it’s not our undoing.

 

A cursory examination of demographically sorted firearm crime statistics would support that statement.

 

Well that response doesn't prove it.

 

What would constitute “proof” for you?

 

You want to argue the laws in Canada, et al, are the difference between the rates in firearm-related violent crime...
...but know you can't, so you ask someone to prove otherwise.

Not how it works.

 

Fixed that for you.

 

That's not an answer to my question.

 

But it is the -perfect- answer to your burden of proof fallacy.

 

Part of the reason for the lack of progress with enhanced gun control measures is due to the NRA's success in getting gun owners to believe the propaganda that "they're coming for your guns."

 

It doesn't reply to what I wrote. You presume an argument where none was made. A question was asked. I would like to know the answer.

 

Every day, Democrats, and their useful-idiot surrogates, scream for bans on guns and any number of other unnecessary and ineffective restrictions -- all of which violate the Constitution.
The NRA doesn't have to say a word for people to have reason to believe they're coming for our guns.

 

OK.
I don't know. Tell us.
Demonstrate your answer to be true.

 

which is more than proven truthful when

1) all the democrats running for the 2020 nomination wanted to ban Semi auto magazine rifles
2) at least one of that Star Wars bar patron scene-Beta O'Dorke wanted to confiscate guns
3) Diane Feinstein-one of the major leaders of the Clinton gun ban admitted that she wanted to confiscate all the firearms they tried to ban that were already in private hands
4) the Biden ATF changes its position and demands people register pistols with braces as "SBR"
5) Rhode Island passes a law making it a felony to keep your once legally bought and possessed normal capacity magazines

you blame the NRA when your own side screams gun bans every time there is a shooting.

so stop blaming the NRA and start blaming all the gun banners on the left-all they do is cause millions more of those guns to be sold. I know that for a fact. in 2012, the range where I was a professional shooting team member had a glut of Bushmaster AR 15s. the owner had received a really good deal if he bought a couple pallets worth of these rifles. Then sandy hook happened and all the pavlovian gun banners started howling for banning AR 15s. guns that were selling at maybe one a week-despite the steep discount, completely sold out in two days

NRA? or Obama and his pet turds in the media screaming for bans

You all bolster everything the NRA says about gun banners

 

more than half the murders in the USA are caused by blacks-a group that votes Democrat over 85% of the time. the activists -such as far left Pam Karlan of Stanford Law school-trying to get convicts their voting rights reinstated are all Democrat activists.

 

Introduction and summary
“Our Second Amendment is freedom’s most valuable, most cherished, most irreplaceable idea. History proves it. When you ignore the right of good people to own firearms to protect their freedom, you become the enablers of future tyrants whose regimes will destroy millions and millions of defenseless lives.”1

– Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president and CEO, National Rifle Association

The National Rifle Association (NRA), an organization originally established in 1871 to train hunters and marksmen on gun use and safety, has transformed into one of the most effective political lobbies in modern American history. The group advocates for gun rights, resisting any encroachment on what it deems to be an inalienable right to unhindered, unregulated gun ownership. To advance its mission, the NRA deploys a disinformation campaign reliant on fearmongering and the systematic discreditation of opposition voices in order to secure its position as a powerful lobbyist for the gun industry. The NRA has masterfully constructed a narrative based on gun rights propaganda, evoking images of a society devoid of rule of law and under constant threat of attack from an unidentified but ever-present enemy.
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/guns-lies-fear/

President Biden Does Not Want to Take Your Guns Away
https://www.newsweek.com/president-biden-does-not-want-take-your-guns-away-opinion-1699426

Obama’s focus during his presidency so far has seemed to try to walk a line between gun control and gun rights. During the Democratic National Convention in 2008, for example, Obama spoke about finding common ground between supporters of both sides: “The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than they are for those plagued by gang violence in Cleveland, but don’t tell me we can’t uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals,” he said.

So far, however, the only legislation the president has signed since he took office in 2008 has expanded gun laws, allowing loaded guns in national parks and unloaded weapons stored in luggage on Amtrak trains.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/whats-obamas-record-on-gun-control/

Gun control group gives Obama an ‘F’
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/59139-gun-control-group-gives-obama-an-f/

At one time, not so long ago, before Repubs lost their collective minds on gun control, assault weapons were banned.

President’s Message: Reauthorization of the Assault Weapons Ban

By the time you read this column, it is highly probable that the federal ban on semiautomatic assault weapons will have expired and once again these weapons will begin to flood our communities and threaten our officers.

First passed in 1994, the assault weapons ban required domestic gun manufacturers to stop production of semiautomatic assault weapons and ammunition magazines holding more than 10 rounds except for military or police use. Imports of assault weapons not already banned by administrative action under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush were also halted.

Since the law was enacted, the ban has proven remarkably effective in reducing the number of crimes involving assault weapons. Since 1994 the proportion of assault weapons traced to crimes has fallen by a dramatic 66 percent. Public opinion polls continue to prove that more than 75 percent of the public supports a reauthorization of the current ban.
https://www.policechiefmagazine.org/presidents-message-reauthorization/

 

Every day, Democrats, and their useful-idiot surrogates, scream for bans on guns and any number of other unnecessary and ineffective restrictions -- all of which violate the Constitution.
The NRA doesn't have to say a word for people to have reason to believe they're coming for our guns.

All of this is a lie.

 

I don't know, hence my asking.

 

If you have to ask, then you don't know and simply take it on faith, gut feeling, or plain ol' bias because that is what you want to believe.