The Surprising Geography of Gun Violence

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  1. Endeavor

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    sure , always here to help ..

     
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    You don't need to show it.
    We are ALL CONVINCED you think Trump told you to inject yourself with Lysol.
    Well, you and Pelosi who says Trump told her to inject her lungs with Lysol
     
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    actually this one explain more in details.. again .. i am here to help

     
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    As you admit here depression, the cause for most suicides, is something that builds over many years. Why would a slight "pause" make any difference? I had a cousin who literally took a tour visiting family members across multiple states over a 3 month period before committing suicide in his garage with a rope. The decision was made, he said his goodbyes in his way, even taking that pause before carrying it out.

    Because its used to just inflate the numbers.

    There are different types of violence. Acceptable violence, and not acceptable violence. Its perfectly acceptable to use violence and kill a deer for instance. And if you support assisted suicide then you acknowledge that it is an acceptable form of violence. If it is an acceptable form of violence then why would you add it to unacceptable forms of violence? The only reason I can think of is to make out as if the unacceptable form of violence is worse than it actually is in order to push an agenda. And that is proven every time gun grabbers use the 43k deaths per year number and just refer to it as unacceptable gun violence.

    Now what you just said here was projection.

    First, there is no need for a "power grab" where guns are concerned. We already have them. All we're trying to do is keep them. It can't be a power grab if you already have the power. A power grab is in the taking. Not the keeping.

    Second, while you may see a problem, you're not seeing the cause. Even when its pointed out to your side you refuse to see the cause. You're like really bad doctors who sees the superficial wound but doesn't look for the bleeder on the inside and just stitches up the superficial wound. Even if you prolong the life of the person by stitching up the superficial wound, the person is still going to die. Its actually a bit worse than that actually as guns aren't even the problem. Its the killing that is the problem. So I guess its more along the lines of a bad doctor with a gun shot victim in front of em and all they do is prescribe some medicine for a stuffy nose.
     
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    So, according to you, when you hear this on the video
    And then I see disinfectant knocks it out in a minute, one minute and is there a way we can do something like that by injection
    In your mind You are being told to inject your lungs with Lysol. :roflol:

    What ever you say there Endeavor
    Its your claim. Have a ball with it
     
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    you want more point of view . again i am here to help




    A GOP GOV

     
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    Nope, you have convinced everyone that this simple sentence
    And then I see disinfectant knocks it out in a minute, one minute and is there a way we can do something like that by injection
    Told you to inject your lungs with Lysol.

    We all believe you. If you want to post videos of others that think just like you, help yourself.
     
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    So are you arguing that Ivermactin is not a medicine developed and used by humans?
     
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    Who knows, sometimes the slightest change in life can cause things to turn out differently. I had an aunt shoot herself with a gun that was in her house. Perhaps if she didn't have it, the events of her life may have unfolded differently. Maybe my uncle would have seen her trying to get a gun and asked why she needed it? Maybe she would have changed her mind if she had one more day to get help. No one can guarantee outcomes either way.

    Or it's used to quantify the amount of violence Americans inflict on themselves.

    You have an agenda. Why do you get to remove a number to support yours? Why is that acceptable but not the other sides agenda? Every gun toter thinks they are right too, so what? It means nothing. All it does is get in the way of finding effective and constitutional means of reducing the number of Americans who die each year.

    That's not accurate at all. Guns in the US were historically regulated. Today, we have fewer restrictions than ever, not more. It's a bold-faced lie to say otherwise. The pro-gun side had take power by removing common sense restrictions once endorsed by the NRA no less.

    This would almost be an argument. Except for the reality that countries that have more restrictive gun laws have fewer gun deaths. And now you say, correlation doesn't equal causality. Actually, it can it turns out. But if the cause of those drastically lower gun deaths is not the restrictive gun laws, then what is it? Are Europeans, Canadians, and Australians just that much better than us? And if you want to treat the causes, great! But you don't. Don't pretend like you want to do that either. List all these causes and what you support our government doing about it. In fact, if you look to those other countries, every European country, Canada, and Australia, you'll find they all have some similarities in their public policies that we lack that might solve the root of the problem. But you aren't interested in those solutions either. So in your analogy, if the other side is the bad doctor, then the side that wants to do nothing, I guess is the disease.
     
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    You're banking on an unknown. A possibility. Not hard facts. I gave an instance of a hard fact. Granted, one case and therefore anecdotal. But its still more than you have.

    If that were the case then why not include all instruments used to commit violence? Why focus on just ONE thing?

    You blew past what I said. Yes, I have an agenda. We all do. But if you want to have an honest conversation then you need to point out why you would include violence often considered acceptable by your side (and believe it or not I support assisted suicide also) into stats that are considered unacceptable.

    Historically regulated by the States. They were not held to the BoR's until after the 14th Amendment. Prior to incorporation the States could go against any of the Rights listed in the BoR's unless their own state constitution had that Right in it also.

    This is called cherry picking. You only go after countries that support your agenda. Include them all and the outcome is very different. For instance Mexico has far stricter gun control laws than we do in the US. Yet their "gun violence" rate is somewhere along the lines of 5 times higher.

    I have listed many times the causes for violence and possible solutions in our country. Many times. And here I go AGAIN.

    Fix our educational system. Study the top 5 or top 10 education systems in the world. Incorporate those as best we can into our educational system. For instance one country (I cannot remember the name atm) nourishes and encourages kids towards paths that they are good in. They do not have a one size fits all like we do. If a child shows good aptitude in say... the science they will tailer their education towards the sciences, narrowing it down to specific fields as the child gets older.

    Fix our justice system. Change it into a system based on rehabilitation instead of one solely based on punishment. Additionally make it easier for convicts to integrate back into society. One of the biggest reasons for recidivism is due to society not allowing them to integrate back into society. Such as being denied housing or jobs.

    Fix our mental health system as its basically nonexistent at this point in time. At least compared to other countries anyways. We have one...it just sucks so bad that its basically nonexistent.

    That is just THREE instances that would fix our OVERALL violence rate. Not JUST gun violence. And you need not make a single law against an inanimate object. And I would bet that even you would agree that these three things needs worked on, and probably even agree as to my solutions to at least a small degree.
     
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    I am not arguing anything. I am pointing out FDA don’t approved ivetrmactin for COVID-19.
     
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    FALSE
    You tried to claim people aren't horses and cows so they should stop taking it with your fake meme.
    That was never created by the FDA, but you couldn't figure that out.

    As a matter of fact, to show how much you don't know about Ivermectin, the National Institute of Health has shown its use to inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in cell cultures and used early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease.

    So much for your fake meme.
     
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    may be you just like to read it is not my word , it is FDA word it is FDA saying - you are not a hoarse , you are not a cow,



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    The FDA never put out that meme. It was made to fool the average LWer.
    The very same LWers who think Trump told them to inject their lungs with Lysol.

    It also proves you have no idea how to source a picture on the internet. You just follow along like the good little media LWer you are. lol
     
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    Thousands of conservative took iveremactin as COVID treatment and FDA reminded them “People are not cow” ( How idiot someone have to be to reminded them they are human and not cow, these people vote in America).

    Trump goes on National TV and tell people to inject themselves with Lysol.

    But I can see you have hard time accepting facts so you just blame people like me who point out these idiots.
     
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    Oh now you are saying in FDA official twitter the post is fake ?

    below link is directly from FDA official Website


    Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 | FDA


    below is from Official FDA twitter account.

    U.S. FDA on Twitter: "You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it. https://t.co/TWb75xYEY4" / Twitter

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    The FDA wouldn't make that claim because the very same FDA cleared ivermectin for parasitic infections.
    How dumb would they look for making that claim for the same drug they cleared. But thats again over your head,
    They also found the following
    The FDA-approved drug ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011

    But LWers don't have much ability to determine where memes come from, they don't know how to source a picture they found on the internet, so all they can do is copy and paste memes. We don't really expect anything different.

    Trump went on TV and stated
    And then I see disinfectant knocks it out in a minute, one minute and is there a way we can do something like that by injection
    And from that you concluded he told you to inject your lungs with Lysol.

    So yeah, we blame people like you for falsifying memes and statements because you do it over and over. And even when you get caught you will continue because you obviously don't know any better
     
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    #co
    It seems like you are afraid going to FDA twitter site to find out yourself what FDA wrote.

    but i will post it for your

    This is Official FDA twitter account - U.S. FDA on Twitter: "You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it. https://t.co/TWb75xYEY4" / Twitter



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    Since you aren't able to verify pictures on the internet and seem easy prey for LWer twitter and media feeds, I did it for you.

    Horse.jpg

    Nowhere on their site does it claim, not to use ivermectin because you aren't a horse or a cow.

    Yet another fake LWer meme bites the dust. How embarrassing. lol
     
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    and you didn't go to FDA official twitter site. you just made my point , pick and choose what you want to believe. thank you. thank you proving my point that conservative just want to pick and choose what they want to believe and ignore the source they disagree. .
     
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    hahahahah, what a joke.
    I provide the official FDA website with the actual picture they used without any claim of You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it.

    And you buy into a twitter feed? :roflol:
    You can't make this stuff up. You really can't

    Isn't it time for you Lysol lung shot :roflol:

    The level of mentality to BELIEVE the same FDA who approved ivermectin would tell the public not to use it because they aren't a horse or a cow, when they have been using it for years, is just immeasurable. lol OMG
     
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    FDA official twitter feed .. it seems like you have hard time accepting facts.

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    And you don't know the difference between the FDA official website with your own picture on it and a twitter feed.
    But you fall for these over and over. OMG, LWers like you do exist. lol
    Did you want to show us all on the official FDA gov website where the caption reads
    You're not a horse. You're not a cow, Come on people?

    The level of mentality to BELIEVE the same FDA who approved ivermectin would tell the public not to use it because they aren't a horse or a cow, when they have been using it for years, is just immeasurable.

    So is the entire FDA gov facility is this stupid to post something that idiotic making themselves look like a bunch of imbeciles who actually approve the very same drug, or do you think one idiotic person posted your meme?

    You know what, don't answer that. You are the same one who Trump told you to inject your lungs with Lysol. lol
     
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    Trump didn’t just tell me , he told entire world to inject with Lysol. You a Trump supporter understand how idiotic that advise was, so instated of admitting Trump made a mistake, you blame people like me who point out Trump’s idiocy. Classic denial syndrome.

    I will post FDA message here again , so you can see again what FDA wrote in their Official Twitter Feed


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    He did? Heres the exact transcript of what he said. Show us the words he said telling you to inject yourself with Lysol
    And then I see disinfectant knocks it out in a minute, one minute and is there a way we can do something like that by injection?
     
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