Biden needs to issue an EO to deal with the crisis

Sure, if you agree to take out a million dollar liability policy since you insist on using your "war" words. If you want a cost prohibitive second amendment tax, you should be willing to pay a first amendment tax.

 

Really? How expensive is it? How do you know what the cost would be for a non-existent stand-alone liability policy for guns? I'm required to have one for my line of work. It's about $700 a year for an E&O policy. It would probably be less than that for the average gun owner, so long as the insurance companies don't have to pay out.

 

Yes, for 15 years. Something tells me you have no clue what liability insurance is. Look it up.

 

That kinda makes his post more relevant. You gonna pay a 1st amendment tax?

 

A lot of people can't even afford health insurance. Yet you want them to take out ANOTHER mandatory insurance policy? Tell me, how is that going to prevent someone from committing a crime with a gun? It doesn't. You know that. But you also know that a lot of poor people that can sometimes save up enough money to buy a gun, or inherit one, won't be able to afford a mandatory insurance. Which means they will have to get rid of the gun if they wish to follow the law. So your goal is to get rid of guns through attrition.

 

You don't read posts very well before regurgitating another post.

I said:

Do I need to spell it out for you?

I never suggested all weapons should have a liability policy in place, I was referring to assault rifles. They want a shotgun, a .22 caliber rifle, a revolver? No problem, but if you want what the military has used, you will need to have a liability policy. Will it prevent more mass shootings? Maybe, maybe not, but the victims and family will have a decent level of compensation for their heartache and pain. You don't think the victims and their loved ones deserve that at the very least?

All you guys ever do is bitch about the situation, but don't do schit to address it. Pathetic!

 

uh, we’re you ever in the military? They don’t have AR15’s but they have lots of pistols and shotguns. No, just because you were a victim of some maniac doesn’t mean you can tell other 99.99% of normal people what they can and cannot have.

all weapons are weapons of war.

 

Thank you for FINALLY describing what you consider a weapon of war. I asked you that a couple of times but you ignored it. You started this thread based on a mass shooting. By someone that did not use a weapon ever used by the military. In fact NO mass shooting for the last 80 years has ever used what you just described. Indeed there are only 700k such weapons in civilian hands, not a single one of them has been used in a mass shooting. And there's only been 4 cases reported of a "weapon of war" as you've described it being used in a crime since the National Firearms Act of 1934 was enacted. (and even those 4 are disputed as to whether they were lawfully owned) So why the demand for liability insurance of at least 1 million?

Note: I'm just talking about guns that are able to go full automatic. As noted, the military does use handguns and shotguns. But you said those were fine to not have to have your insurance scam.

 

I don't think he knows that people generally use .22 bullets in AR15's also.

 

Now that is a fussy spastic response! Exactly what happens in Houston or Chicago every weekend? And be sure to include solid evidence.

 

The point, I think, is that the “good guy with a gun” solution is bullshit and we’ve seen the proof.

 

What? Why? Background checks? A cooling-off period? First cite a problem with voting. Citing problems with gun proliferation is easy.

Are drug overdoses murders? Are they mass murders? Your priorities are screwed up pally.

 

Baloney. If it worked you righties would never let the world forget it. But it doesn’t.

 

Most of the kids getting fentanyl off the street do not know they are ingesting fentanyl. So yes, these overdose deaths are murders. Poisonings.

 

huh? “uh, we are you ever in the military?”
I don’t understand what you’re trying to say.

They have the equivalent of fully automatic AR-15s …. assault weapons designed for most efficient killing of personnel….. like the AR-15.

That’s silly. A switchblade? Brass knuckles? Shotguns?

 

Don’t minimize it. They are some of the hottest, flat-shooting, fragmenting ammunition and designed to efficiently kill people as fast as possible. And they aren’t anything like a .22 cal short, long rifle, or even magnum. They are .223 cal and much faster than a .22.

 

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Shotguns are guns, what exactly are you arguing?

And fentanyl overdoses out numbered semi automatic rifle murders by over one hundred to one in 2021, which is the latest statistics available.

 

Don't use hyperbole. Sorry for not using the 3 in .223. Most people generally don't as the bullets are the same size diameter wise and can be shot from the same type of rifles, the .223 is longer than the .22, but they both still generally fall under the .22 umbrella. There is no .223 bullet that the AR15 can shoot, that any other .223 rifle cannot. There, better? And the AR15 can shoot just as fast as any other semiauto rifle out there, no matter the size of the bullet. In fact there are rifles that shoot much deadlier bullets that have the same exact speed at shooting as the AR15.

 

BUNK!! Don’t bullshit me! A .223 will not fit in my .22 bolt action rifle! You don’t know what you’re spewing! A 45 grain boat tail can have a muzzle velocity of 3500 fps.

As for the rest of your crap, read these -
https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/ban-assault-weapons/mass-shootings.html

https://theintercept.com/2022/05/26/ar-15-uvalde-school-shooting-vietnam-war/

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...land-should-change-the-debate-on-guns/553937/

 

Hornady says the Remington NTX 35 grain round has a muzzle velocity of 4,000 fps. Name another bullet caliber with that muzzle velocity.

http://www.ballistics101.com/223_remington.php

 

Energy is a function of both mass and velocity. 35 grains is awful light. A standard .22 Long Rifle cartridge is 40 grains. And while high speed looks good on paper a heavier bullet at slower speed has the potential to do more damage than a feather flying at high velocity.

It sounds really scary though, huh? - "4,000 feet per a second!"

 

https://abc13.com/teenage-crime-shootings-houston-teens-shot/13222079/

We get shootings all the time, it’s mostly thug related. It’s easy to find.

 

every gun ever made since gunpowder was invented was designed to be the most efficient. Shotguns, pistols, etc are weapons of war. I get the feeling you wouldn’t know an ar style carbine from any other carbine.

 

Right. That was on the news and it is more evidence of a need for gun laws. How ridiculous is this??…. You linked article says "A 16-year-old boy got into a fight with the father of a girl at the party, and both the teen and father took out guns and started firing at each other, according to the Harris County Sheriff's Office. The 16-year-old died.”

GUNS AT A PARTY????????????????????????

You don’t think the situation is out of control and guns need to be confiscated???? Remember that the Republicans allowed and defended the proliferation of guns, and now we see this kind of insanity. They were told!!! Now the birds have come home to roost on the Republican doorstep.