Biden needs to issue an EO to deal with the crisis

Interesting statistic. What cornflakes packet did you get it from?

 

but, but, but... it's on the front page and highlighted on the news every night. the rubes are gonna buy into this crap every time. too invested in the superficial talking points of their masters to listen to reality, they will tend toward the easiest answer every time. it's easier to blame the tool than to delve into the causes of violence. it's too much trouble to figure out why people use their guns, so let's just take them all away.

 

Usual and common misrepresentation of the facts

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/...s-and-mental-illness-what-the-statistics-show

 

It's not a misrepresentation at all. It's common knowledge that the population of the United States of America is at least 320 million and there is estimated to be at least 400 million guns. Would you care to dispute the numbers or crunch the numbers?

 

Lols! It is the logic fail

Who is it keeps saying “guns don’t kill people”

Plus those guns are not spread out as “one each” as many people have multiple guns. But sheer stats “if only 1% of gun owners will misuse that gun then the stats will be higher if a greater percentage of the population have access

 

It's not a logic fail at all..... The numbers are accurate.

My question is very simple. Out of 400 million guns..... What percentage of them are criminally misused?

 

Guns still have a lower body count than alcohol. Do we need EO against booze? Why isn't it a national 'crisis' when a drunk driver kills a school bus full of children?

 

Do the math yourself. 334 million people live in the US. 48,000 gun deaths per year counting suicides 20,000 without counting the suicides. Oh wait...might want to avoid doing math...I hear its racist now a days. But if you're looking for the exact number its 0.0141176471%. Its 0.005988024% if you take out the suicides. Happy? Or would you like to quibble more? Either way, no one with any amount of honesty would consider such a crisis.

 

Thanks for doing the math. I knew it would require a zero and a decimal point followed by several more zeros and then some numbers.

 

And I was even generous and used ALL gun deaths. Not just "mass shootings" as that is what the OP focuses on. According to CNN in 2022 there were 646 mass shootings (most of which are gang shootings or someone shooting up their own family due to rage or mental illness, not schools being shot up), 690 the year prior. So lets be generous with this number also and just round it up to 700. Mass shootings are generally done by a lone individual. So...700 individuals/mass shootings out of 334 million equals out to 0.0002095808%. No matter how you slice it, not a crisis.

Here's the link for the CNN reference.
LINK: Mass Shootings in the US Fast Facts | CNN

 

When the leftists say "It's a crisis!" you know one of two things. Either they are frightened and want you to be frightened, or they just want you to be frightened.

Thankfully not all of as are so gullible. Or timid.

 

It does not sound like his proposal would stop it.

Maybe you don't care, but if guns are #1 cause of death among children, then obviously some people would want to do something about it

Yes, every night. And you wonder why some people want something done?

21 000+ murders every year. Small enough number to ignore? Legalize it? Of course, because going after transgender kids is a much bigger priority. What percentage of Americans were killed in 9/11? Was the number so small that it should have been ignored? Hell no. You percentage game is borderline absurd.

 

Biden needs to deploy the military domestically. He needs to send tanks house to house, confiscating all privately owned firearms and arresting everyone found to be in possession of guns, knives or anything else that can be used as a weapon. The only way we can ever be a free nation is to wholly crush the "rights" of the citizens. Once we take away firearms, speech and religion we can finally be free...at least until we find something else we don't like about people and then we can get the government to lock them up for that too.

 

A+ grade sarcasm IMO, but not everybody here recognizes sarcasm so use caution.

 

I agree. The more incalcitrant the GOP gets on this issue, the worse it will be for law-abiding gun owners. We are very close to reaching that boiling point.

 

Thanks for the canned answer. Next.

 

I mean, we can debate a new Federal Assault Weapons Ban, but not even Sotomayor would consider an EO constitutional. It's dead in the water, to the extent that they would likely hold an emergency hearing on it and block it shortly after it was handed down, with a unanimous ruling including the Democrat-appointed justices.

Would that ultimately help or hurt your cause? "Just do something, anything" has trapped many a political analyst.

 

"Maybe you don't care, but if guns are #1 cause of death among children, then obviously some people would want to do something about it"

and.......

Maybe you don't care, but if abortions are #1 cause of death among unborn babies, then obviously some people would want to do something about it

 

Did you read the part where I said "temporary"?

How is it violating the 2nd when the person will eventually get the weapon they bought? I threw 60 days out there, but it could be 30, but that is definitely negotiable. The point is to make it harder for some of these guys to be able to purchase and begin shooting at people in as little as a week. No, it's not going to prevent all incidents, but if it saves a couple of lives, it would be worth it.

I just don't hear anything coming from the right side that doesn't involve more guns and fewer regs.

 

The issue isn't what you're doing, it's how you're doing it. Congress has the responsibility for such legislation, not the executive.

 

I have two questions for you.

1: Would your waiting day period include those that already own guns? If so, why? They already own a gun so this really wouldn't affect them if they were going to go on a rampage.

2: Will exceptions be available for cases such as a woman who has a restraining order against her ex who's threatening to kill/assault her?

 

A well regulated militia has a requirement that everyone own his own gun.

 

Evidence of inability to provide a response with any logic.

Why even post?

You said nothing. Because you have no response.

If your perspectives hit a brick wall when challenged and this is all you have to respond with, maybe a little self evaluation of your perspective is I'm order.

Instead,

 

Yes most states have such a period. Why do you need another? We have gun laws coming out of our ears. More laws aren't a solution to the problem. The solution is to get sociopaths out of society and to treat them as we did in years past before we had mass shootings. Guns haven't changed much. The way we deal with mental illness has gotten weak over the years.

 

Now all we need is a well regulated militia huh.