target's"tuck friendly" swim suits

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope you enjoy it
     
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    I do, don't you?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don’t seem to be, you seem to be very concerned people having equal rights is destroying the world because we are not following the morals you have invented from your sky daddy.
     
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    I dont expect people to be celebrated in Target for their sexual preference, whether they are hetero or homosexual. There is a time and place for everything, and a mass market retailer that caters to a lot of kids is most certainly not that place.

    We are all just people. I see no reason for constantly dividing everyone up into special interest groups.

    Where did I say that it is sexual? It is a symbol of sexual preference if that is what you mean when calling it sexual.

    I do believe that there are people that would not shop at Target if they had a display for NORML yes. In fact, I am certain of it. I am as big of a pot smoker as you will find within reason, and a member of NORML, and I do not believe that Target is the proper place for such.

    I want my young children to not be aware of sexuality for as long as possible. I want to preserve their innocence for as long as possible. This does not mean that I want them to be ignorant of hetero and homosexual sex eventually, rather I do not want this concept being pushed in front of a 7 year old child that has yet to awaken to such realities. I would rather be the one that introduces them to this concept, not Target. Call me old fashioned I guess.



    I dont know about tuck clothing for children, but this is a perfect example of not wanting to have this conversation with my young children. The last thing I would want to hear while in Target is "what is a tuck garment and why would you need it?"

    There is a time and place for this type of clothing. Perhaps in a specialty store catering to adults. Target is not that place, at least not if they want to keep my business.

    The trans issue is the heart of the Dylan Mulvaney thing, and to me, the Target uproar is an extension of that same outrage. I personally believe that most of the outrage at Target is about the trans thing. With that being said, I have no doubt there are some that are just anti-gay, and while I am not anti-gay in any way, I too do not want that concept being introduced to my young kids that I am still trying to keep innocent for as long as reasonably possible.

    I see this as being similar to Santa Claus. Yes, I know at some point they are going to find out he is not real. I am under no delusion that this naivete will or should last forever. I simply dont think it is Target's place to go out of their way to tell them.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree with what you are saying, but I am a little confused as to how this contradicts anything I have said on the subject. Maybe we should just leave it at we agree.

    That is progress.
     
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    The only thing that is contradictory is you accusing me of saying things I haven’t.
     
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    Pride has more to do with the freedom to exist without fear of persecution than it does sexual preference.

    So you also wish to ban Snow White shirts of her being kissed then? Yes? What about any materials with couples holding hands? Should we ban shirts with children on them since they come from heterosexual sex?

    So by that metric you would also like to ban religious materials, correct?

    You should look up what pride stands for and why it came about.

    The issue is the types of… pushbacks against LGBT topics is showing bans of books with gay characters in them but leaving heterosexual characters. Take “And Tango Makes Three” — banned under these laws. Why is that book an issue but the Bible which has a ton of very perverse language being pushed into schools? Or books with a heterosexual couple?

    You won’t hear that — because it doesn’t exist for children. It’s a lie to stir up hate.

    And again, how does a shirt with a rainbow need a major explanation if you choose not to give it?

    I am still not understanding the struggle to explain that gay people exist to children. The same children that we are now running through active schooler drills at schools. The same children where armed protests are happening outside libraries.

    If you can explain either of those to a child why does saying “you know how mommy and daddy love each other, this is for other types of families that love their significant other.” How did you explain the relationship between Beauty and the Beast? (Your kids probably never even asked)
     
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    Just heard June is apparently 'pride' month. Ruh roh....gonna be lots of people who will be upset and lose their minds over this. Gonna sit back with some popcorn and watch the meltdowns.
     
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    How much tuck room is there in those Target swimsuits? I'm kind of afraid I might be too large if you know what I mean.
     
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    But these clothes are OK?
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    I certainly do not desire to infringe on their right to exist, but I suspect if someone did feel that way, a display in Target probably isnt going to change their opinion. It would probably engender more hatred rather than less I fail to see how a display in Target has anything to do with their right to exist.

    Can you elaborate on this belief?


    You said this in response to me saying I do not think it is good to constantly dividing people up into special interest groups? While I am not religious in the slightest, I do recognize that we are a christian country. I dont think that we should ban any semblance of religious symbolism. A christmas tree with an angel or a manger scene would be perfectly fine in my opinion, but it could go too far as well. The last thing I would want when going into Target is to feel like they are trying to convert people to Christianity or Muslim or any other religion. I would definitely be turned off if they started doing that type of outreach.

    Why is that relevant to this discussion?

    It would be like me saying that in order to bring attention to homelessness, I decided to punch you in the nose. At that point, you could not care less about my motive for doing so, you would only be concerned with your broken nose.

    What does this have to do with this discussion about Target?

    Tuck clothing for adults can ABSOLUTELY spur this discussion with children. Have you ever had kids? They get into everything and ask a million questions.

    Just a rainbow? It wouldnt need an explanation. We arent talking about just rainbows though are we?

    This is a discussion that should be had by the parents ideally, but one thing is for sure, it is NOT supposed to be Targets decision as to when.

    Im sorry, bringing up school shootings does NOT mean that therefore ANYTHING is fair game at ANY age. That is silly and a stretch in logic to say the very least.

    Why do you see it as your place to weigh in on how or when anyone introduces this concept to their children? You and Target need to butt out.
     
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    Yeah… their stock price is showing how great these things are lmao
     
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    I am done if you are.
     
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    My position is that a mass retailer should not be weighing in on controversial political issues.

    No, I wouldnt see the one about gun control as being appropriate for Target. The one about shooting a target? I dont know, I dont see the controversy there. Doesnt Target sell guns? That seems like something that would logically be sold in a gun department
     
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    I actually have no problem with those shirts just as I have no problem with rainbow pride clothes. To each their own.
    Oh no…I jumped in and gave my opinion about a question you asked someone else. Now I’m gonna be in trouble. Woe is me.
     
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    But I get to console myself with the great art and music inspired by that same sky daddy.
     
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    Aww, :aww: You're making me :blushes:
    Thank you so much. :heart:
     
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    There is some evidence that the high US gun death rate is actually more about attitude and beliefs than number of guns so clothing that buys into and encourages a “gun culture”
     
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    Let's add to the list. They offended by peaceful protests by parents who shop at Target. :blownose: Just more of their hypocritical rules for thee but not for me we can now chuckle about. ;)
     
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    Who sells the gun T-shirts you posted to the thread earlier?
    WE don't have to ban anything, but in a free society people have a right to not shop at a place that does sell LBGQT merchandise. Do you agree? And if so, what's the problem?
     
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    I'm not an expert in the whole tuck thing, but I didn't think clothing was conducive to the act of tucking ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    As we know, the stumbler, Biden said, "our nation's children are all our children" so there's a distinct possibility that the Pride manufacturers took him literally. Maybe they should have saved themselves the trouble and checked with the parents first before thinking their lines were going to sell.
     
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    TMI, ;) but it probably has a slip it in fuhgeddaboudit compartment that's sewn into the crotch to hide the "jewels"
     
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    Says who?
     
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    I guess the part where I mentioned rape and murder being actual crimes wasn’t self explanatory, was it?
     
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