target's"tuck friendly" swim suits

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  1. cd8ed

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    The issue is you don’t care for topics to be displayed that you agree with or feel are commonplace.

    It isn’t because it’s “sexual” or whatever other cop out y’all need to excuse it. It isn’t because you don’t want to discuss it with children as you don’t have an issue explaining school shooting, magical sky people, heterosexual couples, mythological characters — this issue is only for acknowledging gay people exist. Telling them a lie about Santa is easier for you than just saying other people love someone.

    I have no issues removing the pride flag from schools or public spaces. I do have an issue banning books because they mention gay or demanding private corporations bend down to this agenda. Frankly I don’t give a **** if it makes you uncomfortable.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which one?
    So many options
     
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    :rolleyes: You’re Welcome, my Friend. Just telling the truth that I know about you. :heart:
     
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    So the morals of the majority being forced upon society that are not automatically authoritarianism.

    That isnt what you said initially. Now that you have amended your position to agree with my position, we have nothing further to discuss.

    Sucess.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    After all of this, you have concluded that my explanation for my position is not correct, and instead you know better why I feel as I do than I do.

    There is not much else to say after that. Once a person has went off into Lala delusional land where you are going to fabricate my position, any semblance of a productive conversation is over.

    Apparently you would rather argue against what you wished I had said rather than what I actually said.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I dont know, IMO, at that point you would have a stronger argument that Target should not sell guns than you would saying they should not sell a t shirt about target practice.

    This seems like a pretty irrelevant point that is trying to stir sh*t where there is none.
     
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    Please identify what I have said or attributed to you that is not your position?

    Have you not stated that you don’t want gay pride in any store that your children might go into as you don’t want to explain it?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Basically, 80% of the post of yours to which I replied..... Here you go...

    "The issue is you don’t care for topics to be displayed that you agree with or feel are commonplace.

    It isn’t because it’s “sexual” or whatever other cop out y’all need to excuse it. It isn’t because you don’t want to discuss it with children as you don’t have an issue explaining school shooting, magical sky people, heterosexual couples, mythological characters — this issue is only for acknowledging gay people exist. Telling them a lie about Santa is easier for you than just saying other people love someone."


    I have given you a respectful, detailed explanation of my position, and then you came in and just insisted that what I was saying isnt my real reasons, and then proceeded to tell me my "true" position.

    Apparently, you read minds. (sarcasm)
     
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    You have stated you don’t want to have to explain it to your children (I believe you said you want them to be naive as long as possible). You brought up Santa — a fictional being — and said target shouldn’t tell them (you are lying to your children).

    So if you don’t believe pride themes are sexual in nature then why should they be removed from stores? If it isn’t sexual in your mind then what is the issue?
     
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    Pride themes? I don't know exactly what you are talking about in that regard when you are saying that I am claiming they are not sexual in nature.

    My position is that the Pride movement celebrates homosexuality. Discussing homosexuality, just as discussing heterosexuality, is a discussion about sexuality. I dont know what you mean by saying pride themes are sexual in nature, but celebrating homosexuality or heterosexuality is a celebration of sexuality.

    Celebrations of sexuality are perfectly fine in appropriate venues. Target is not an appropriate venue to celebrate sexuality. I think I am stating that very clearly. I do not have a hidden agenda that I am obfuscating.
     
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    The Conservatives like themselves, some Wrestlers.
     
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    There is nothing sexual about a rainbow on a shirt. It's only sexual to your children if you make it sexual. All they see and know is that it's a friggin rainbow. If you feel you need to bring up homosexuality then that's on you.
     
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    Rainbow on a shirt?

    So you mean that Pride, by its very nature, is not intended to bring attention to and celebrate homosexuality? So to you, it is just about a rainbow? You dont think anything else is on any of these shirts other than a rainbow? There is no men tion of trans and pronouns and such? If that is your belief, I would call that shockingly naive. I think that deep down you know its intended purpose as well as everyone else, and you know this collection while including rainbows, has other very overt messaging.

    I assume you must also believe that the American Flag is just about some stars and stripes without any other meaning.
     
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    I of course went out of my way to mentioned that to a kid it's just a rainbow. Not sure how you could have possibly missed that. Reading comprehension....:roll:
     
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    ....and the Trans language and pronoun discussion? Would you just call that a rainbow too? The adult tuck clothing....more rainbows I assume?
     
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    Why would your kids see adult tucking clothing? Is there some big sign in the store that says “adult tucking clothing right here”?
    Unless you plan on buying your children a shirt with “trans language and pronouns” on it then what is there to discuss? They won’t know it exists unless you show it to them. This shouldn’t have to be explained to you.
     
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    Dude that's.....that's not at all what I was saying. You were comparing being gay to felony crimes in the context of morals/
     
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    Putting words in peoples mouths seems to be his M.O.
     
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    Because they know how to read.
     
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    But again, they are only reading it if you buy it for them or bring them to that section. I dunno…how about not doing either? Seriously, this shouldn’t have to be explained to you. Wow.
     
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    I made no such comparison.

    I will recap this conversation....AGAIN....

    You said to someone "So you believe morals should be able to be forced on others as long as a majority agree with it, is that what you are saying?"

    another guy responded to you and said...."that is what we call civilization" to which you replied "that is called authoritarianism, bro"


    Since you said that morals being forced on others is authoritariansim, I brought up the obvious crimes of murder and rape and pointed out that those are examples of morals being forced on others That is the very essense of our system of laws.

    I brought those up to illustrate that our system of laws is specifically predicated on the notion of morals held by the majority being forced on others.

    I did not make any comparison between being gay and committing a felony. I pointed out the reality that our system of laws is precisely what you called authoritarianism. In truth, I wasnt even approaching this as a discussion about being gay. Being gay was not mentioned in what I responded to. I never mentioned anything about gay. You have 100% fabricated the notion that I compared being gay to a felony. I said, nor implied any such thing.
     
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    You have basically just fabricated the notion that I was looking for a solution as to how this doesnt have to create a conversation with my children, you presented a solution for the issue I was not seeking a solution, and then acted like im stupid because I didnt know that solution. You are quite a piece of work. Yeesh.

    I already have the solution, which is to shop at Meijers when needing crap made in China. Simple.





    With your solution in mind, I could also bring my kids into an adult bookstore to buy some breath mints if I just keep my child from looking around, but id rather just go to the gas station up the street and allow my kids to have a little bit of freedom while we shop.

    The answer is simple. I will shop where I feel the most comfortable taking my kids. Sorry if that offends you.

    If Target wants to start selling blindfolds for children to wear while shopping, maybe we can revisit this issue.
     
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    Wait….you’re comparing an adult bookstore to target? My lord…hahaha.
    And yes, you are in fact doing that no matter how much you’ll claim you’re not.
     
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    How is a pride clothing sexual to a child? It is you that is making it sexual.

    Why is Snow White not a heterosexual sexual them that you are ok with your children being exposed to direct sexual themes but not ok with something that isn’t sexual in nature?

    If you don’t want your kids to be corrupted by the evil pride displays that celebrate tolerance and freedom to exist then lie to your kids or don’t have them go anywhere in public. It is absurd to demand all others bow to you will because you don’t want to be uncomfortable
     
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    I analogized them. Do you understand the concept of an analogy.

    Why did I choose an adult bookstore as an analogy? Because when you say I can just not let my kids look at it, an adult bookstore is the type of place where I would expect to have to shield my childs eyes. To listen to you, it should be done in Target. No thanks.

    Your feigned indignation is fooling no one.
     

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