Christianity is a false religion

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  1. Injeun

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    Have you tried Beyond Meat brand hot sausage patties. There's no meat in them(all vegetable) and they are delicious.
     
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    I particularly like the elk sausage patties I harvest and grind myself. Sage gives them a nice flavor.
     
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    Well, there isn't just one interpretation of that commandment, and I'm more interested in the commandments as a whole, not specific individuals.

    We do need to be careful about what we consider to be food species.
     
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    So, our government manages herds of various animal species for people to kill. I don't object, but I don't see any moral high ground in that, especially in comparison of modern methods of harvesting beef.
     
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    American society has pretty much nailed down what's suitable to us to eat. And our laws forbid murder.
     
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    True, and I would oppose setting even more restrictive laws on what animals we eat than those that exist.

    I think our strongest guideline on what we eat is culture.
     
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    I never claimed any "moral high ground". Just bragging about my culinary skills.:banana:
     
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    Really? American society consumes genetically modified animals that are ground through am inhumane factory farm system to feed a population that is comparatively over fed and unhealthy.
     
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    It's legal to kill and consume animals in the USA. If we don't like what's offered, we are free to seek alternatives, such as growing and raising our own foods. This particular tangent is the result of Philosophicals contention that eating meat is a violation of the sixth commandment.
     
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    We have a local rancher that offers us grass fed beef cuts once a week. We really should support that type of business. Good meat is very healthy! I was told, If it can run fast it is good for you. That is why I prefer wild game.
     
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    LOL. Elk sausage with sage and grass fed beef. If you are trying to make me envious, it's working. ;-)
     
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    This graph makes it easily explained.
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    While I fully understand your views and question all religions for their myths as you do I would put it this way-religions are based on parables or stories where HUMANS write down lessons to explain rules they want people to follow so they can control their otherwise primal behaviour, i.e., incest, rape, murder, stealing, engaging in violence, cannibalism.

    In that sense anything a human writes is bound to have the biases of the writer.

    So reading any religious book means reading the words of a human and their biases

    Furthermore the words usually never based on first hand testimony and so are already distorted. Then the more removed the person is repeating the story the more there is distortion from the original meaning called the broken telephone effect and then you can add to that distortion because of the result of translation to new languages and even more distortion due to political, gender, cultural biases of the reader and/or story teller.

    So to say religions are lies is an understatement. Sure they are subjective and fictional. However it doesn't mean you can not take the parables and stories and use them promote POSITIVE behaviour.

    Yes we use words (religion) as weapons to kill and wound and justify our savagery but they can also be used to bandage and help wounds heal not just cause them. Depends on how you want to use those exact same words.

    You can use a knife to stab and injure, kill someone or cut you open to take out a tumor.

    So I say choose how you use the words. That choice begins and ends with you.
     
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    Christianity is more extreme over time... because it's embedded in Christianity. Most Christians, except the very braindead, expect things to get worse and worse and worse... because it's what Jesus and the Bible say.
    And then whine how society is going down and we are degrading. Well, guess what - no social decay = no abomination of desolation = no Apocalypse = No Second Coming. One goes with the other.

    You don't want to make Jesus a "false prophet", do you, yabbarefugee?
     
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    LOL!


    This gem never gets old.

     
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    I agree on most you say.
    The problem is, Christianity is a pessimistic religion, against all odds. Christianity teaches that very bad things must happen and they are inevitable.
    Also, the "positive behavior" you're talking about could be a big problem. You turn the other cheek and you get smashed with a baseball bat, for example. You love your enemies, instead of terminating them, and you get laughed, tortured and slaughtered as a stupid sheep. Thing like that. If we assume this as "positive behavior".
     
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    Whose business is it that you, I, or anyone else believes in any religion? If my neighbor chooses to worship rabbits as gods... what business is it of yours or mine? Anyone that comes up with a line like "Christianity is a false religion" should be nominated for a "national busybody award"
     
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    If you don't like the discussion - don't participate. It's that easy. :)

    I'm afraid not. Since I am not American, you cannot nominate me for that award of yours. ;)
     
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    Ahhh... not American. That explains the hostility and religious intolerance. Thanks for the advisory.
     
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    If that will make you happy, I consider Islam to be even worse.
    You are welcome.
     
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    Thanks again, you give me a whole new understand of why our Founders abandoned Europe.
    Interesting though, in all the years I spent living in Germany and the UK in the US military, I never ran into anyone so intolerant or hostile to religion. Oh well... I'm glad our Founders left such folks behind.
     
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    I'll start eating meat made out of tulips when they start making tulips out of sirloin.

    Until then... give me..

    - a "dirty" vodka martini
    - a chilled shrimp cocktail
    - another martini
    - thick, very rare, bone-in ribeye
    - "loaded" baked potato
    - pitcher of dark beer
    - flan
    - coffee w/ Amaretto
     
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    Oh no, I don't buy that. Americans exactly made me come so hard on Christianity. And here is why.
    There is a hysteria in recent months among Christians (mainly Americans) about the Rapture and the "Jesus is coming soon" crowd. If you can't find it on YT with these buzzwords, give me a shout, I'll give you a hint.

    Well, to be precise, this isn't something new. For Jesus said "I'm coming soon" about 2000 years ago and we are still waiting. So, "soon" might be a misleading term. But the hype is there among Christian believers.

    So, it's all about that "end of the world" mentality. ;)
     
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    There are always oddballs screaming about Rapture and "Jesus is coming soon". There hasn't been a time in history when SOMEONE wasn't saying that. We saw it in Guyana (Jonestown), California (Hale Bop), Hippolytus and Sextus claimed it in the year 500, The Spanish Monk Beatus said it was coming in 793, ,,, if you look in Wikipedia under "Predictions and Claims for the Second Coming" you'll find over 50 folks that have set a date for it... mostly past.

    So what? Oddballs will always be with us. I know a German leader that once said his government would last 1,000 years. It lasted 14 years. So i should give up on Germany?
     
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    I just let things happen and observe. Not whining about anything. Guess you might say those things about "progressives". They "progress" to the end of things. Every thing must change all the time according to them. Scripture says "Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever." I'll hang on to those things.
     
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