Ron DeSantis on Ukraine

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  1. Endeavor

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    Last time I checked, out of 30T debt US has , 9T is G.W Bush’s two war - Afghanistan and Iraq.

    So I really don’t give s$$$$ what republicans say about the debt and deficit.

    What’s next ?
     
  2. Zorro

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    It doesn't change the debt service requirement, debt run in Biden's war in Ukraine has to be serviced just like all the rest of it.
     
  3. Endeavor

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    Let me get this straight for you. W Bush 2 war costing US 9T and counting. Trump spent 6T in 4 years. That is 15 trillion or 50% of US debt. Rest other president altogether combined is 15 trillion .

    That is for you the republican math. They rack up US debt , when Democrats are in office, REPUBS are like “ we have a f%% big debt, we can’t do anything”.

    At least Dick Cheney was honest , he said “ "Reagan proved deficits don't matter." . then he went on and spent 9 trillion dollars on two wars.

    America don’t need lecture about debt and deficit from conservative.
     
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    Dick Cheney was wrong. And if you're claiming that debt doesn't matter, you are wrong too.

    BIDENOMICS = INFLATION

    Debt service costs have nearly doubled under Biden, already, and they are in a very steep climb.

    Mortgage rates have more than doubled under Biden.

    If you want to pretend that spike at the right side of the graph isn't extremely important and needs to be dealt with, that's your choice. All I can do is point you toward the facts and then let you make up your own mind.

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    Because, it would be fun to watch Russia break out the WWI ammo.
     
  6. Vitaliy

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    Surprisingly, the sanctions have benefited Russian industry. What used to be bought abroad is now produced in Russia. So there will be no financial collapse. .

    It's interesting to watch you. Apparently you think that Russia is a cross between North Korea and Nazi Germany. You probably think that there is poverty, hunger in Russia, secret police agents are sneaking around everywhere and arresting innocent people. The average Russian is an eternally drunk type with brainwashed propaganda, or an unhappy philistine dreaming of overthrowing Putin. I assure you, in all such representations, the truth is no more than 1%. There are probably such people, but most are ordinary people living an ordinary life. Some of them are richer, some are poorer, but there are no special differences.

    So no one is going to overthrow Putin.
     
  7. Egoboy

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    That's a funny story.... No, I do not think it is still 1934 in Russia (although many innocent people are still being arrested, Russia being a police state and all)

    Doesn't change the fact that Putin IS a dickhead and should be removed, one way or another (the better) way...

    You do understand that either way, it will take at least a full decade for Russia to be accepted back into normal Western economic, diplomatic, and social circles, if that is even possible?
     
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    You have erroneous information. Almost no one is being arrested now. When the war was just beginning, there were arrests, but most of the detainees were only fined. About two dozen of the most active were put in prison.

    And why is Putin a "dickhead"? Of course, he does a lot of stupid things, but no more than other heads of state.
     
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    Why is Putin a "dickhead"? Neither of us has the time for me to explain that to you, so accept it or reject it as you will... Just know he's hated in the West like few have ever been.
     
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    That is, you hate Putin, but you can't explain why you hate him. Funny...

    By the way, no one in Russia hates Biden or Trump or Macron, for example. Even Zelensky is not hated. At worst, they laugh at him or despise him.
     
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    When you start a sentence “sanctions have benefited”, you have already lost the argument. Sanctions never , ever benefit anyone. Anyone trying to claim “sanctions have benefited” is just spreading propaganda.

    No one thinks today’s Russia is 1936 Germany, however a country the size of Italian economy is full of poverty, secret police, innocent citizen getting arrested, court system is a total mass, yea that is Russia 2023.

    You are right about one thing, no one going to overthrow Putin because secret police keep arresting and killing anyone who even express that view.


    Oh this is not some “ dumb American” read some magazine and came to that conclusion. I actually visited that part of the world , many , many times.
     
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    Putin is a murderous dictator. What else to explain.
     
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    How horrible Russan has to be that they don’t hate Zelensky or people of Ukraine but they are supporting sending their young men and woman in Ukraine with tanks to kill, rape, , kidnap, destroy the Ukrainian people and Ukraine.

    I can’t imagine what Russan people like to do with people they hate.
     
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    I think that guy needs to ask whoever setup the building scroll to say "Putin is a dickhead" to explain why he/she thinks Putin is a dickhead.

    Presumably a Russian doing that (at great risk)....
     
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    Elect them President....
     
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    My unknown American friend - no one is being arrested here, we don't have "solid poverty" and secret police! I doubt that you have been to Russia if you write such absurdities... Once on this forum, Americans proved to me that Russian stores have empty shelves and nothing to eat. I couldn't convince them with words and I had to go shopping and take pictures. Only after that, the American debaters were convinced that I was telling the truth, and then with reluctance. :)

    Personally, since the early 2000s, I have criticized Putin many times in various forums. And I'm not the only one - Russian forums are full of such critical remarks. But for some reason they didn't kill me, and they don't kill everyone else. So stop writing nonsense if you don't know the state of things in Russia.
     
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    If if makes you feel better, I both hate and despise Putin...
     
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    It is useless to explain to you because you do not understand what has been happening in Ukraine all these years since 1991. You only hear one side, and you don't have critical thinking.
     
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    But you can't explain why you hate it. So your hatred is irrational. You don't know why you hate it, but you have been convinced that it should be done.
     
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    Your Tanks breaks down on the way to Ukraine and sit on the road for months, rest of the world see that. And you want Americans to believe Russia has no poverty.

    Any way, I really don’t have time to debate with Putin’s paid Trolls.

    Good bye.
     
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    Which tanks break down? Well, you're completely out of your mind!

    There are poor people in Russia, but you claim that EVERYONE in Russia is poor, that there is total poverty and misery here. Do you want me to just take a picture of the street from my phone now and try to find the poor.

    And yes - no one pays me. I'm voluntarily trying to enlighten you fools before you start a nuclear war.
     
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    Sure.... and if you get caught out on the streets without your papers, it was good knowing you....
     
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    I'm going without documents now. And even a little drunk. And imagine - not arrested!

    So do you need a photo or not?
     
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    Since you didn't answer anything, I think you're afraid. So you need to post a photo. They were made in ten minutes on an area of 200X200 meters
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    If you think about it for a minute one answer should jump out at you......
    There are many examples on this board.
     

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