Ron DeSantis on Ukraine

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  1. Zorro

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    INTELLIGENCE LEAK ON UKRAINE

    New Details on Intelligence Leak Show It Circulated for Weeks Before Raising Alarm.

    'Sometime in January, seemingly unnoticed by the outside world, an anonymous member of a group numbering just over a dozen began to post files—many labeled as top secret—providing details about the war in Ukraine, intercepted communications about U.S. allies, such as Israel and South Korea, and details of American penetration of Russian military plans, among other topics.'

    'The documents, which appear to have numbered in the hundreds, stayed among the members of the tiny group on the Discord messaging platform until early March, when another user reposted several dozen of them to another group with a larger audience. From there, at least 10 files migrated to a much bigger community focused on the Minecraft computer game.'

    'On Wednesday, with the U.S. government apparently still unaware, a Russian propaganda account on Telegram posted a crudely doctored version of one of the documents, alongside a few unedited ones.'

    'It sure would be nice if we had an intelligence community more interested in gathering and protecting actual intelligence than in suppressing domestic “dissent.”'

    With the leader of the opposition under a questionable 'indictment' we're holding ourselves out as the standard for democracy to be imposed with our war machine?
     
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    I would be interested in the opinion of VIPS on this matter. That's Bill Binney formerly of NSA and others, Veteran Intelligence Professionals. I hope they will soon offer their interpretation.
     
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    The Leaked Documents Warning Ukraine’s Counteroffensive Will Likely Stall.

    This is bad. 'It is bad that this assessment leaked; it is bad that this assessment of Ukraine’s abilities in the spring offensive are so modest or grim; it is bad that apparently lots of foreign-policy experts have doubts about the administration’s approach but are afraid to say so publicly; and it is bad that Biden’s public assessment of the war in Ukraine is the same rosy-eyed, unrealistic optimism that characterized his assessment of Afghanistan, inflation, migrants crossing the border, and the Chinese spy balloon. The president is always telling us that things are going great and that we have nothing to worry about, and a little later, we learn that the truth is the opposite.'

    About that leak.

    DNC issues statement to its operatives with bylines: Government Spokesman Instructs Media to Ignore Leaked Intelligence: It’s ‘Not Intended for Public Consumption.’

    WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT A YEAR FROM NOW, EACH SIDE WILL HAVE LOST ANOTHER 100,000 DEAD, THE US WILL HAVE BLOWN ANOTHER $100,000,000,000 AND THE SITUATION ON THE GROUND IS LITTLE CHANGED?

    'Ukraine’s challenges in massing troops, ammunition and equipment could cause its military to fall “well short” of Kyiv’s original goals for an anticipated counteroffensive aimed at retaking Russian-occupied areas this spring, according to U.S. intelligence assessments contained in a growing leak of classified documents revealing Washington’s misgivings about the state of the war.

    BIDEN BURBLES HAPPY TALK

    We give Egypt almost a $1.5B/yr.

    'President Abdel Fatah El-Sisi of Egypt, one of America’s closest allies in the Middle East and a major recipient of U.S. aid, recently ordered subordinates to produce up to 40,000 rockets to be covertly shipped to Russia, according to a leaked U.S. intelligence document.'

    'A portion of a top secret document, dated Feb. 17, summarizes purported conversations between Sisi and senior Egyptian military officials and also references plans to supply Russia with artillery rounds and gunpowder. In the document, Sisi instructs the officials to keep the production and shipment of the rockets secret “to avoid problems with the West.”'

    BIDEN RECENTLY CLAIMED THAT 'NO FKS WITH A BIDEN'.

    The UAE hosts our Gulf Air warfare center:

    'the U.S. has had growing concerns that the UAE was allowing Russia and Russians to thwart sanctions imposed over the invasion of Ukraine.'

    The QUAD powers that are supposed to contain China if it launches wars of aggression against peaceful neighbors was supposed to include India.

    'Russia is still finding plenty of open markets for its energy exports; oil exports to India have increased 2,200 percent. Russia claims that it has rerouted its oil from the European market to buyers in Asia, Africa, Latin America, and the Middle East. And there’s considerable evidence that a decent amount of Russian oil is still ending up used by European consumers after transiting through middlemen to work around the sanctions.'

    'Publicly, many nations of the world are denouncing the Russian invasion. Secretly, apparently a lot of regimes are eager to cut a deal with Putin.'

    THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION CANNOT BE TRUSTED WITH INTELLIGENCE

    'The intelligence leak is shaping up to be one of the most damaging in decades, officials said. The disclosure complicates Ukraine’s spring offensive. It will likely inhibit the readiness of foreign allies to share sensitive information with the U.S. government. And it potentially exposes America’s intelligence sources within Russia and other hostile nations.'

    'What does winning in Ukraine even look like? Do we agree with Ukraine that it means restoring its 1991 borders? '
     
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    It's good for business!!!
     
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    When somebody claims to speak for 'the people of Ukraine' you know they are either lying or know nothing about what is going on in Ukraine and has been going on for the last 9 years.

    The only reason a democracy will do whatever the weapons makers want is if the public are really really misinformed.
     
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    UKRAINE WAR: So Where Is That Counteroffensive We Were All Promised?

    'Expressing his “cautionary thoughts” about the Ukraine War counteroffensive, an AFU officer warned last month that it’s time to “temper our expectations” about clearing Russian forces completely out of the country this year — or maybe ever.'

    So how many more hundreds of thousands dead, and hundreds of billions spent blowing everything up that will need to be rebuilt, before reality is accepted and this ends in a negotiated settlement?
     
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    Yeah, that old ruble is really kicking ass these days, isn't it?

    SNIP
    In an emergency meeting on Tuesday, Russia’s central bank governing board decided to increase interest rates by 3.5 percentage points, reaching 12%. This action aims to prop up the ruble, which has been significantly impacted by Western sanctions in response to the conflict in Ukraine.

    The move comes after the country’s ruble broke below the psychological floor of 100 to a U.S. dollar, rendering each less valuable than a penny.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/panic-mode-ruble-plunges-below-154524977.html
     
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    Oh come on now.... I'm sure Hunter Biden was only appointed to the board of burisma due to his extensive experience and his masterful command of the native language.

    I'm sure it was totally above board and had nothing to do with who his daddy is
     
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    Who on here is arguing otherwise??... I'd like their avatar name and post history.

    If nobody, you really shouldn't argue with yourself... looks odd...
     
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    So what do you think they expected or got out of daddy?
     
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    I expect they'd advertise that they had a Biden on their board and they were worth doing business with. Suspect they got nothing out of daddy, except apparently the weather report in DC (which is neither classified or illegal, although damn hot today)

    Surely this isn't the first you've ever heard of offspring using a famous last name to get ahead?
     
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    It's called nepotism and one hand washes the other.

    It's very naive to think that they thought having a Biden on the board was such a big plus and that nothing else was going on there.

    It was all about power money and influence.

    With Hunter biden's record someone would want to be crazy to think that having his name would be some giant asset to their giant corporation...lol

    I'm old enough to remember when you guys didn't like Trump's kids using the influence of their name to get a position
     
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    Well, it's actually not nepotism, since nepotism is defined as "the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives, friends, or associates, especially by giving them jobs."

    That ring any bells with you?? Think outside of your myopic little Hunter box for a second...

    I think Hunter might be called a Nepo Baby these days...
     
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    More fun with rubles

    SNIP
    Russia is running out of usable hard currency, to the point where Aeroflot has been landing at least nine of its Boeing and Airbus passenger jets with their brakes switched off because the airline is struggling to obtain parts at viable cost, and can no longer service its fleet in the West.

    Pilots have to rely on reverse-thrust alone. A leaked memo obtained by Aviatorschina warned them of the risk of “overrunning the runway” in wet weather. This is a country in dire straits. Only in the magical world of Russian statistics did the economy grow 4.9pc in the second quarter, year-on-year.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/rouble-crash-putin-moment-truth-122344838.html
     
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    But, but... Putin is very smart and savvy, right?

    Imagine how the Putin lovers would cry if the interest rate was 12% in the US....
     
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    I don't understand what your objective is.

    Your posts do NOT look like foreign policy. They look like no more than a partisan political campaign ad.
     
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    And this in from Siberia....

    SNIP
    On Sunday, images were shared online of a small symbolic protest mounted in western Siberia: A building’s chyron kept repeating the message that “Putin is a dickhead and a thief,” calling the ruble’s exchange rate “crazy.”
    ENDSNIP

    If an illegal war and massive amounts of war crimes from their leader won't do it, maybe the risk of financial ruin will allow the Russians to begin the process of regime change...
     
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    My thoughts on this are perfectly clear. I don't want to see another 100,000 Ukraine dead, and another $100B blown and a year later battle lines roughly where they were the year before.

    Why do you want that?
     
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    Yeah, except that he neither reads, writes or speaks the language and didn't show up to work a single day.
     
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    $1.00 doesn't buy over a hundred rubles, it buys 98.

    https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=USD&To=RUB

    In March 2022 a dollar bought 104 ruble.

    Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, National Currency to US Dollar Exchange Rate: Average of Daily Rates for the Russian Federation [CCUSMA02RUM618N], retrieved from FRED, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis; https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CCUSMA02RUM618N, August 15, 2023.
     
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    Not at this very second, but it did at some point during the day yesterday, before the Russian Jay Powell hit the panic button... the point of the article I posted...

    upload_2023-8-15_20-56-16.png

    The word "after" should have been your big clue
     

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