Anti-cop Minnesota Democratic Party official left bloodied in violent carjacking — now calls for tou

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  1. Par10

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    I guess you missed the part when she called for dismantling and rebuilding in a way that would help all communities. She wasn't asking for 'no cops', she was fighting for 'better cops'.
     
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    How's your life while you dismantle and rebuild your house? It's much better to repair and improve. Maybe she found out one small nugget of what the police actually deal with every day.
     
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    I guess it would depend upon the condition of the house. In some cases, it needs to be 'dismantled' and rebuilt. Which is exactly what was called for in Minnesota. But are you suspecting that the city would be left without police in the meantime?
     
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    I’m not sure of the time frame here of the dismantling and rebuilding which as you’ve said was called for, but seems the necessity of maintaining a sufficient police force was overlooked.
     
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    And we just ended up with better off criminals!
     
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    And certain mistakes when rebuilding can be made. It doesn't invalidate the need to rebuild. You don't stop rebuilding your home if one of the contractors makes an error, do you?
     
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    The righties always do.
     
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    Err, huh? What does that even mean?
     
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    I think it means that the longer a person woks at their job, in this case criminals, the better they get at their job.

    Or should I have used the word career?
     
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    I meant better off. Criminals are better off when law enforcement is under attack.
     
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    Law enforcement has been under attack for a number of years, and the attack has been promoted thru the MSM… Sure there are some bad cops and some poor judgment calls have been made, but to use that to discredit police in general is not the wisest thing to do and has made it hard for law enforcement agencies to hire good people with good hearts who want to make a difference and put bad people behind bars.
     
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    I really wish Democrats were capable of marketing their policies as well as the right is.

    Defund the police was one of the most absurd and damaging messages the right has been able to seize on. They should have pushed demilitarize the police or reform the police.

    The word “defund” requires too much nuance to explain and the low information voters can be easily manipulated to believe it means zero funding.

    That said, left wing policies have made crime issues exponentially worse. We need to be holding offenders, especially multiple count offenders, accountable.

    Pay police well, require adequate training, remove qualified immunity and mandate violations of others rights are paid out of the department and not the taxpayers.
     
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    A tiny bit of digging will show you that it never happened.
     
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    I'll bet this woman favored social workers responding to crime rather than cops.

    Liberals are finding out how dangerous their La La Land policies are. There's more crime in their cities, more homeless, more illegals, more drug overdose deaths and poor school grades.
     
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    Paying out of the department is the tax payers. Lmao. If you mean deducting paychecks then you haven’t even begun to think that through, that’s an emotional knee jerk reaction.

    Defund meant to defund. It didn’t have any other meaning, that’s why they used that word and not a word that is more accurate to what you incorrectly claim claim it means, it was an overly emotional response by low information people to problems that are far more nuanced that most have the ability to understand. The problems facing black people are overwhelmingly of their own making and overwhelmingly fixed from within. Police aren’t even in the top 100 issues. BLM is the perfect example of an organization appealing to low info people, swirling peoples emotions into a frenzy so they become a rabid mob of fools calling for policies that actually make it worse for them. They are their own worst enemy. Emotions do that to people.

    No one is against making police better, but the left particularly wanted to defund them. That was the single most irrational and counterintuitive “solution “. Purely emotional, which is not uncommon seeing how often the left reacts to anecdotes as if they are statistically relevant.
     
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    You might recall my ex fiancé works for the CA Democrat party in media relations. During our many discussions about politics and how things work, she emphasized how much effort and consideration they put into the wording of what they’re trying to promote. The next time I talk to her I’ll ask her if using the word defund was something the left agreed on or if it was a mistake.
     
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    She called for defunding. That has a very specific meaning. If she meant rebuilding she wouldn’t have thrown defund in there. It’s typical democrat double speak.
     
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    One thing the Democrats should do, is explain the purpose of creating this situation...

    https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news...n-they-can-hire-chief-calls-it-unsustainable/

    ...and yes, they created. There's no denying it.
     
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    "Rebuilding" is nothing more than damage control because the defund movement was such a massive failure.
     
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    Better is the enemy of good.
     
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    This is patently nonsense when you simply look at how leftists approach sentencing criminals even IF you have a police force that does it's job 100% perfectly across the board.

    A job that is, quite simply, an impossible ask. Leftists expect the police to both prevent anything bad happening to them personally (that's all that leftists really care about when it comes to crime prevention. I.E their own personal safety) and simultaneously hug and high5 violent criminals.

    All one needs do is look at how many violent criminals are simply let go, put back on the streets, and continue their violent crime sprees in places that consist of majority leftist voters.

    Leftists have zero intention of holding actual criminals accountable for their actions. Period T.

    It's the exact same reason leftists in NYC are crying about the illegal alien situation.
     
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    I would say you are very wrong that the right has some magic formula for marketing policy. The left is far more successful since they are actually getting their policies implemented.

    However...this one was just stupid. I remember the first time I actually saw "defund the police." It was on a protest sign in Minnesota about a week after George Floyd was killed (on TV, I wasn't actually there). The hysterics of that particular time seemed to turn every protest sign into part of the Democratic platform. There is no "nuance" to the word defund. Everyone knows what that means. All of this "rebuilding" wasn't part of defunding. It was explained multiple times at the time that defund meant just that, defund, and use the funds to provide social services.

    Even now, three years later, defunding has still meant defund and several Police departments were in fact defunded; having their budgets cut in a period of rising crime (coincidence?). If you guys actually had a specific police policy to replace the police, you've been slow a rolling it out.
     
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    They want "equity" in law enforcement. Equal outcomes for the races. CRT applied to criminal law enforcement. In Minnesota blacks are only 10% of the population but account for 75% of the known murderers and account for over half of many violent crimes tfrom this 10% of the population. Equity can only be achieved in criminal law enforcement by not enforcing the criminal laws to the same extent on the blacks.
    Wonder if any of these media reports on her attack will ever identify the suspects as 4 black men?
     
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    Things changed for her...
    Her "outlook" changed...
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