Anti-cop Minnesota Democratic Party official left bloodied in violent carjacking — now calls for tou

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    social worker responding when someone calls for a mental issue of a family member, sure (with cops as back up in case needed)

    just like cops act as backup when there is a fire

    the truth is.... cops do not want to do the social work, they are happy to give that job duty to professionals
     
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    Hand in hand with “defund or reimagine the police” is no bail laws and prosecutors who systematically refuse to enforce the laws the state governments have passed.

    I am sure when this progressive finds out that “the youthful offenders,” who broke her leg and bloodied her face,” have only done this a few times that she will be more than happy to let them walk. Violent crime and robbery are the new entitlements after all. If she insists upon continuing to complain about how they treated her, other progressives will have no choice but to cancel her.
     
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    Theoretically, everyone is in favor of better cops. The question is better- for who?

    Most of the cop-haters aren't interested in the victims of crime until they become one.
     
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    I have absolutely zero sympathy. You make your bed and you lay in it.
     
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  5. Lil Mike

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    Well I already told you, but to try to simplify it even further, "defund" was not some term that means a multitude of programs to improve policing, it was simply to get rid of them. What you are avoiding is that defund means defund, no matter how hard you try to spin it.

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    Yeah it is dumb, just like MAGAs calling for defunding the FBI, DoJ.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...defund-doj-fbi-puts-senate-house-gop-at-odds/
     
  7. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Well, the no cops strategy is a goatfuck, obviously. It's time to admit that Left's plan to "reform" police departments was a bad idea.
     
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    Yeah, sending unarmed, untrained social workers into a dangerous situation is great idea.

    https://www.mysocialworknews.com/article/social-worker-stabbed-to-death-during-home-visit
     
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    I’m pretty sure there’s only a very few that want bad cops. But, sure as **** it happens, and in the end the media makes sure to use poor judgement calls and outright racism (yes some cops have been racists throughout history) to make them all look bad and use it to promote the agenda of defunding to save us all from racism that doesn’t exist on the whole.

    The sad fact is that bad cops make people on the right look bad, thanks to the MSM’s help, and we do not want that.
     
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    No one missed any such thing because that is not what she said

    She consistenly repeated DISMANTLE the PD/ No such equivication as you claim
     
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    Direct quote from the article: "Its time to build a new infrastructure that works for ALL communities"
     
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    FWIW; I’ve know and/or meet several cops throughout my life, and thru daily life - not related to their jobs. I’ve seen them as good people and respected their positions.

    Of the last two I’ve had conversations with: One, a State cop, expressed concern for her well-being due to recent random attacks of police officers. She has since quit her job, The other, a former country cop said he recently quit and sited a new bad group joining the force as partial reason for hanging up his badge.
     
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    yes nothing about cops
     
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    you are entitled to your opinion and while that might have been the case for a handful of very left wing extremists it wasn’t the mainstream goal
    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/what-does-defund-the-police-mean-and-does-it-have-merit/

    No matter how much you try and “simplify” your beliefs they will remain beliefs only and not facts.
     
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    I guess since the article and this post are about the police I figured you could extrapolate that the infrastructure discussed is about the police infrastructure. If not, to what infrastructure do you think she referred?
     
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    It clearly means replacing them,.

    You need some work on reading comprehension
     
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    But you're not presenting facts, you're presenting an opinion piece by a left wing think tank trying to spin the word "defund."

    Exactly as you're doing.
     
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    Here’s an example of when defunding does equal dismantling:

    “Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., said the time for departmental reform has passed. “The Minneapolis Police Department is rotten to the root and so when we dismantle it”

    https://m.startribune.com/frey-tells-defundmpd-marchers-he-favors-reforms-over-disbanding/571075452/

    Jacob Frey, also a Dem, is more levelheaded in suggesting reforms over dismantling, but the dismantling attitude no doubt has existed and probably still does in some circles.
     
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    Dude seriously !!!!!

    https://www.justice.gov/archive/jmd...sion of the FBI,agencies and partners; and to
    The mission of the FBI is to protect and defend the United States against terrorist and foreign intelligence threats, to uphold and enforce the criminal laws of the United States, and to provide leadership and criminal justice services to federal, state, municipal, and international agencies and partners; and to perform these responsibilities in a manner that is responsive to the needs of the public and is faithful to the Constitution of the United States.

    The FBI’s major priorities are to:

    • Protect the United States from terrorist attack;
    • Protect the United States against foreign intelligence operations and espionage;
    • Protect the United States against cyber-based attacks and high-technology crimes;
    • Combat public corruption at all levels;
    • Protect civil rights;
    • Combat transnational and national criminal organizations and enterprises;
    • Combat major white-collar crime;
    • Combat significant violent crime;
    • Support federal, state, county, municipal, and international partners; and to
    • Upgrade technology to successfully perform the FBI’s mission.
     
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    And you are presenting nothing but your opinion, which again is how you really really feel. Which you are entitled to, but I will take an opinion piece from the people that you are accusing of something (of which there are thousands of such with a single Google search along with virtually ZERO efforts to completely defund the police (can you name any?) over your opinion on anything even on your best day.
     
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    Absolutely it means replacing them - the bad ones. And creating a new infrastructure that would not allow bad cops to skate. Do you have a problem with replacing bad cops?
     
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    Feel free to spin this however you like. For any reasonable person, the OP is full of irony. If you can't or won't see it, so be it.
     
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    You want (another example, see my previous post here) google search search results that show efforts to dismantle police depts, that in my book are essentially the same as completely defunding:

    “In early June, a veto-proof supermajority of Minneapolis City council members supported efforts to “dismantle” and “abolish” the police department and replace it with a new system of community policing.”

    https://theconversation.com/dismantling-the-police-lessons-from-three-places-that-tried-it-140303
     
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    I am glad to see the right has won on this issue. Most of our society is very left wing in culture which is why even something as stupid as defund the police existed with such support in the first place. But this is a rare example of a right wing victory.

    But, atleast even the left are starting to see the necessity of police, and move away from such radical narratives like defund. Some pretend they never supported that, others pretend defund doesn’t mean defund. But atleast they are now against it.

    This is progress for society.

    Now I’m sure we can eventually improve the police, once the left is onboard with more reasonable suggestions and not hate filled “let’s just make them poor by taking from their paychecks” ones.
     
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