Canada’s house speaker apologises after praising Ukrainian veteran of Nazi unit

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...aising-ukrainian-veteran-who-fought-for-nazis

Canada's parliament decided to give a couple standing ovations to Ukrainian Nazi Yaroslav Hunka calling him a "war hero" for fighting against the Russians in WWII. Trudeau and virtually everyone present decided to shower him in praise knowing he was fighting with the Nazis against Russia. It has now be revealed that he was a voluntary member of the SS. He saw what was going on during WWII and decided he would volunteer for the Nazi cause.

Russia has already picked up on this. They've called it "outrageous."

For context, after WWII Canada became a sanctuary country for Nazis who were escaping criminal war trials. They've shielded many war criminals and have a lot of memorials and statues honoring Nazis due to their large Nazi immigrant population.

 

In Germany, this Nazi would be put on trial. In Canada, he gets a standing ovation in Parliament.

To flesh this out a bit ......

Formed in 1943, SS Galichina was comprised of Ukrainians from the Galicia region in the western part of the country. It was armed and trained by Hitler's Nazis and commanded by German officers. The next year, the division received a visit from SS head Heinrich Himmler, who had high praise for the unit's effectiveness at slaughtering Poles.

The SS Galichina subunits were responsible for the Huta Pieniacka massacre, in which they burned 500 to 1,000 Polish villagers alive.


One of several photos on a blog by an SS Galichina veterans’ group that shows Yaroslav Hunka, the Ukrainian immigrant honored by the Canadian Parliament during a visit by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Hunka is in the front row, middle.
In fact, during the Nuremberg Trials, the Waffen-SS was declared to be a criminal organization responsible for mass atrocities.

 

Ohhh...I was waiting for a thread to be started in regards to this......yep, Nazis everywhere under yer bed.....in your head.....everywhere. Boogalooga....

 

Not under my bed, but in the Canadian Parliament... this is any interesting defense you have there.

 

You forgot 14th Waffen SS....woogsie.

So let's see....yes 1943?....around June-ish of that year?.....commanded by Gruppenfuhrer Walter Schimana til about November 43 of that year?

Then if memory serves me right....it was Brigadefuhrer Fritz Freitag?....11/1943-4/1944?

Then it was Brigadefuhrer Sylvester Stadler...April44-July44?

Brigadefuhrer Nickolaus Heilmann July44-Sept44?

Back to Fritz Freitag Sept44-April45

Ending with Pavlo Shandruk April-May 1945.

What's about those Wankers woogsie....lotsa them have Swastikas tattooed on their a$$cheeks(of all phucking places), they're not Nazis?....after all they killed lots in Ukraine?

Sordid crew these Wankers...don't ya think?

 

Theyre many places.....not Justin Canadian Parliament Trudeau.....you should toss in Chrystia Freeland....Trudeau go to bimbo?

Her Nazi past is a mile long....even longer than this Hunka....her paternal grandparents sat at tables with Hans Frank,Erich Kock, Frederich Jeckeln....I can go on if you like.

 

Need a binky, Zoomie?

 

Did you just equate someone born after WWII to an actual member of SS to defend your prior post? I'm not sure how this logic train works...

 

Meh, yeah an oversight, but the actual intent was along the lines of "enemy of my enemy is my friend." The Nazis were the enemy in WW2, but since then it's been the Russians. Stalin was only good in that he was useful to defeating the nazis and denying Japan their last hope for a favorable surrender negotiation. Otherwise he was an evil son of a bitch just a shade better than Hitler. Point is, it seems good, superficially, to praise anybody who kills Russians in today's context. It really has nothing to do with antisemitism. Always gotta dig deeper to avoid offending the hypersensitive out there, especially when it plays into Putin's propaganda.

 

And Trudy called Canadian truck drivers Nazis...lol

 

The Galicia division was formed to fight the Russians and not the good allies. That was codified in the German contract with the division. Due to German chauvinism “foreign” formations were not allowed to be re ruined directly by the Werhmache so they were administratively processed by the SS yet their formations fought alongside with regular German divisions. The Galicia division surrendered to the western allies and were interned as POWS a they were vetted and investigated. After they were investigated and cleared they were given refugee status. They were not NAZIS as pro Soviet pro Russian yahoos claim. Stalin falsely accused them of being NAZIS just as Putin accuses those who are opposed to Putin’s invasion falsely accuses those them as being NAZIS. Real NAZIS are turds no matter what ethnic group or country they are/were from. The accusation of Galicia killing Poles is BS. Look somewhere else.

Galicia was exonerated and Waffen SS was declared as being a criminal organization. Go find the real NAZIS.

 

That is a really weird justification for Canada honoring a member of the SS because he was a member of the SS. If you sincerely think that "enemy of my enemy is my friend" applies so that you think we should side with actual Nazi's than I think anti-Russian hysteria has gone way to far. Neither we or Canada are at war with Russia, nor are there the existential stakes that was the case in World War II.

This is simply madness. If you hate the Russians so much that you want to side with Nazi's, then I don't think we have any commonality on what our foreign policy should be. Go hang out with your Nazi buddies.

 

That is the uniform of regular German army not Waffen SS.

 

So primarily liberal media entities = Putin's propagandists... some people will say anything to defend support for a Nazi. What a time to be alive.

 

My post obviously confused you. You have a habit of purposely misreading posts to make strawmen, or there’s some cognitive deficit. I would try to clarify, but you’ll just misrepresent it or the facts again.

 

You are not that stupid. This was not really about nazis. This was about Ukrainians killing Russians.

 

So we're supposed to pretend WWII wasn't about Nazis and those trying to stop Nazis because you want to defend support of a Nazi? Is this a habit or a one-off?

 

Your post wasn't very intelligent so I'd be careful before flattering yourself. The "enemy of my enemy is my friend" nonsense makes no sense. This person didn't fight modern Russia based on their invasion of Ukraine. This person voluntarily joined Hitler's mission and fought 1940s Russia who was trying to stop Hitler's eastern push.

He was just the enemy. He was never "the enemy of our enemy." And, he certainly wasn't a friend. The Soviet Union, at that point was a member of the Big Three and one of our allies. He fought against us. The fact that you would so pervert this history in an effort to call Nazis fighting against us "our friend" is deplorable. He didn't defect, he wasn't a spy, he didn't help us. He just helped Hitler's agenda. If that's your friend you should reconsider the company you keep.

 

The Sovs were never "allies" or friends even before ww2.

They were a necessary evil to fight the Germans.

Once ww2 was done all bets were off....and they were.

 

Maybe I don’t know enough about this particular unit and this particular soldier but I think both the optics of honoring him makes doing so ridiculous while at the same time I can recognize this guy was like 18 at the time, brainwashed as all hell as they all were and there doesn’t appear to be anything directly linking him to being personally involved in war crimes.

Simply put, he doesn’t deserve hatred nor admiration. At least not without knowing more than I do.

 

They were an ally in the war which is the topic of this thread.

 

The topic is about the CDN house speaker apologizing for a gaff .A gaff that could have been prevented if they had done a diligent review of that Ukrainian's background. Incidents like this still trigger major responses in ways that indicate the sensitivity of the matter.
The speaker is being asked to resign. Some gaffs are just too unacceptable ......particularly if they could have been prevented.

 

Okay let me help you. I was trying to explain where the Canadians were coming from. Has nothing to do with my own position. They didn’t point to this guy because they loved nazis. They pointed to this guy because he fought Russians and Russia is today’s enemy. Yes, it was a mistake to not realize how this would be used against them. Fact of the matter is you’re just helping Putin by trying to capitalize on the Canadians dumb mistake

 

Well, good luck proving this Yaroslav Hunka participated in war crimes. That division had all kinds of sub divisions and some were here and some were there.
And those people fled to places like Canada because the usual reason why they joined the Germans was to fight the communists / Russian imperialism, and he lost that fight.
It leaves nothing to the imagination what would be done to people who fought communism / Russian imperialism and lost.

Lots of Jews fled that same communistic Russian empire. Let's not kid ourselves what that Hunka was fighting against.