Israel comes under heavy rocket fire from Gaza, suspected terror infiltration

I could argue and possibly agree with you on some points in such discussion but we just been kicked to a far away world,
We first need to eliminate the current threats, and that's all I'll say about that.

 

I have links and backed up my claim. You have emotions.

Zionist meant "Jewish Nationality" OF COURSE. Why the **** would they not want to insure the state that was just returned to them to be Jewish majority? If they just let in all those from surrounding Arab/Muslim nations, it would just get over run and as such...would no longer be a Jewish state save by name. Why the hell would they want that???

And because they wanted that, the Arabs and the Palestinians IMMEDIATELY attacked them for attempting to live on the land that the British conquered and gave to them.

You have nothing sir. Nothing but emotions.

Easy W.

 

What do you need links for? Just look at a map. If you cannot see that the Zionists have stolen Palestinian land like Jews at a "going out of business" sale then a link would be nothing but a shell game and con-artistry.

 

What I see, and to what I've read through history...it seems to be the case that the Arabs and Palestinians can't help themselves from attacking and aggressing on Israel which, in response after pushing their **** in...repeatedly...they have to secure the areas where those attacks or terrorist groups originate from.

look for yourself;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Israeli–Palestinian_conflict

Take this latest example as evidence to the fact that Hamas...whom originated from the Gaza strip...will now get their **** pushed in and most likely as a result will see more Israel control or have oversight over that area.

And you can blame nobody but Hamas for that.

What's that phrase?

"Don't start nutin, won't be nutin."

Should have just agreed and accepted the two state rule by the British whom owned the ****ing land.

 

I don't know who you're talking about.


Pink Floyd founder unfurls Palestinian flag at London concert

 

It's Ironic that the left are the ones going full terrorist support thinking they are standing on a platform of virtue. Hamas =/= Palestine.

 

Where's the lie?

 

So, in fact, you have nothing to write and you write meaningless cametaria as usual.

 

I mean that's par to your standards so I don't see why you are complaining.

 

Opinion | Haaretz Editorial
Editorial |

'Netanyahu Bears Responsibility for This Israel-Gaza War'

Snip:

"In the past, Netanyahu marketed himself as a cautious leader who eschewed wars and multiple casualties on Israel’s side. After his victory in the last election, he replaced this caution with the policy of a “fully-right government,” with overt steps taken to annex the West Bank, to carry out ethnic cleansing in parts of the Oslo-defined Area C, including the Hebron Hills and the Jordan Valley.

This also included a massive expansion of settlements and bolstering of the Jewish presence on Temple Mount, near the Al-Aqsa Mosque, as well as boasts of an impending peace deal with the Saudis in which the Palestinians would get nothing, with open talk of a “second Nakba” in his governing coalition. As expected, signs of an outbreak of hostilities began in the West Bank, where Palestinians started feeling the heavier hand of the Israeli occupier. Hamas exploited the opportunity in order to launch its surprise attack on Saturday.


Above all, the danger looming over Israel in recent years has been fully realized. A prime minister indicted in three corruption cases cannot look after state affairs, as national interests will necessarily be subordinate to extricating him from a possible conviction and jail time.'

This was the reason for establishing this horrific coalition and the judicial coup advanced by Netanyahu, and for the enfeeblement of top army and intelligence officers, who were perceived as political opponents. The price was paid by the victims of the invasion in the Western Negev.'


https://archive.ph/KDBax

 

no proven for whom? For you?
If a proof is not sufficient for you, it does not mean that the event is not proven.
For example, Al Capone and any other criminal on trial is also sure that his crimes are not proven. But that doesn't mean they are.

 

It is a shame for what Hamas has done. taking hostages and would kill them if Israel attacks a certain neighborhood. Hamas doesn't care who they hurt so as long as they get their way and have it as soon as possible. What Hamas is doing is out and out wrong and they should know it. Hamas will kill Israel and the people and allies including the hostages at will and will do it at any time.

 

This Inahallah how Gaza will look in December 2023.
Free Gaza from Hamas ISIS.

 

... and that applies because ..... ?

Let me see now. The Indians should accept the diminishing plots of land they were allocated as a result of an agreement that the settlers drew up with Britain, right? You know, the Yankees "owned the ****ing land". Indians .... shut up and accept it.

The Vietnamese should have shut up and accepted their French masters even after having fought to free Indochina of the Japanese for ...... the French who owned the ****ing land to continue raping their country? Well, they didn't do that.

The Persians should have (1) accepted that their natural resource - oil - was owned by the US and the UK and just shut the **** up right? And later (2) accept the CIA political coup that destroyed Iran's Democratic elected government and replaced it with the American puppet Shah who supported US control of Iranian oil, right? After all, it was Anglo-America who owned the ****ing land, right? Well, they didn't do that.

The Cubans should have just shut the **** up and continued living in destitution while the American mafia did as they pleased because they owned the ****ing land, right? Well, they didn't do that.

Poland should have just accepted the deal made between Stalin and Hitler right?

Czechoslovakia should have just accepted the deal made between Hitler and the UK, right?

I can give you dozens of more examples but my fingers are getting tired.

Where were we? Ah, yes.
Britain owned Palestine and when they made a deal with the European & American Jews the Palestinians ought to have just accepted it, right? They're not willing to do that and I DON'T BLAME THEM any more than I blame the Vietnamese, the Persians, the Cubans, and the other dozens of people who've been screwed over by foreigners.

 

Yes, where's the lie?

 

Name me one nation that has not had conflict that dictated it's feature governance.

 

When at war you must utilize any meager advantage you have. Do not even try telling me that Palestine can stand toe to toe against the US-funded and supported Zionist war machine. I beg you, please do not do that or I will laugh you right out of existence.

 

"and by association of all Jews" = hogwash. Antisemitism is rampant on the right, not the left. American antisemites are by and large white racists. The crazies who shoot up synagogues are far right radicals, not left.

This is the sort of piece written by someone who wants to deflect from valid criticisms of Israel's policies by accusing those critics of being antisemitic and having "hatred" for "all Jews." It's an attempt to override reason and logic with emotion and shut down the debate.

 

Even if that is true, unless you, and we fight the Russians, the Ukrainians are going to be slaughtered. Supplying anything we could to help Poland resist the Nazi occupation was the right move in 1939, but only if we intended to do what we did, and open up other fronts to fight the Nazis ourselves with the goal of destroying the regime. But if we decided to simply indefinitely funnel arms into Poland, with no intention of fighting the Nazis ourselves, that would have accomplished nothing but ensure the Nazis crushed Poland even harder, if that would have been possible, and war has a way of showing humanity: yes, it could get worse.

Resisting evil with nonviolent noncooperation is always honorable imo, if one truly believes in one's cause. But resisting evil with force is more complicated. Unless your violence has a chance to succeed, I believe one should refrain from it. But ofc, the question becomes: how does one know when resistance using violence is actually feasible against an oppressor? For example, one could use my argument against the American colonists resisting England, and they did. Many said it was impossible. But obviously there was a group of colonists who came to the conclusion that they could resist by force, and actually accomplish the military objectives necessary to beat the oppressor.

I do not see how these brutal Hamas tactics ever have a chance at actually succeeding in lifting their oppression. I can't imagine anything that could be done to me that would force me to livestream the beheading of children. If I'm ever being oppressed to the point that that is my only option to resist, then I will refuse to become that monster, and resign myself to my fate, and hope for an afterlife..

If Iran and others continue to funnel weapons to terrorists, the only result will be Gaza under a tighter and tighter blockade,, and eventually the Israelis will stop holding back, and level Gaza (just like this token resistance in Ukraine will eventually lead to Putin saying screw it, and leveling Kiev...)

 

You make no point whatsoever now. We are discussing (by your own insistence) the question of accepting your fate as dictated by a foreign power. You say they should, they themselves say "no!" Try to make your next comment relevant to your own basis of argument..... if you are able.

 

You are incorrect. You likened Israelis to nazis. 20% of their population in non-Jewish. The truth is that the rest of the region has been cleansed of Jews, Christians, atheists, Americans, gay people, and those critical of religion/government. The pot is calling the kettle a nazi.

 

I mean...they have a right to fight it out. Which they've been doing since before world war 1. And all that it's amounted to is the loss of more life and more land.

The Brits had every right to give that land to whomever they wanted.

 

No, it's probably your imagination. But you can try to prove your case.

 

And you see that as being fair and a reason to quit protesting. You support that.

The Palestinians disagreed and so did the Vietnamese, the Cubans, the Czecholslovaks, the Poles, the Indians, the Algerians, the Zimbabweans, the South Africans, the Namibians, the Angolans, the Dutch, the Danish, the Norwegians, the Finns, the Nubians, the Congolese, the Rwandans, the Nigers ....... All but the Indians and the Palestinians have been freed so you seem to be on the wrong side of "right" and well-entrenched in the "wrong".

 

Do you want me to prove that you likened Israelis to nazis or that the surrounding region is not safe for those I listed?