At Least 300 Dead In GAZA HOSPITAL BOMBING

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  1. Bob Newhart

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    Likely m117s
     
  2. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Or, we can look at the video proof of an Hamas rocket falling short and landing on the hospital.
     
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    Do you have a source-- or are you in Gaza right now, yourself? I have heard numerous reports, and cited one, in my OP, that name "Islamic Jihad," as the source of the misfire, and which categorize them as a "rival" jihadist group. So be my guest, putting up your supposed omniscience, against CNN, and various people in both the Israeli government & press, who have all pointed, at least as a possible alternative to it having been Israel, to Islamic Jihad-- but I would not expect your own authority, to fare very well in winning over supporters, in that contest. If it had been Hamas, I can think of no rational explanation for Israeli officials, to not blame Hamas, but rather to pin it on a different group. Can you explain that?
     
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  4. Bob Newhart

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    I was wrong confirmed to be JDAM.
    https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1714399005399011406?s=46
     
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    If it hits a hospital full of people it sure could. Those other landings have been in neighborhoods, not directly on a hospital.
     
  6. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you have seen this, and were to provide it for us-- then yes, we could.
     
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  7. Bob Newhart

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    We could , but until you come up with some intelligence that indicates the possibility that Hamas has ordinance with a payload that can do that kind of damage , I have serious doubts that this was a rocket.

    I’m going to have to wait for more reports to come in.
     
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  9. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    It does if the collapsing building causes most of the fatalities.
     
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    Would you like to see an Israeli army strike?

     
  11. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    The warhead only need to have enough energy to collapse the building and I doubt Gazan building codes are on par with those in The United States...lol

    Can't argue with video of a rocket falling on the hospital, then there's an explosion, where the hospital is sitting.
     
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    Link doesn’t work for me(it’s a Twitter thing I guess, lots of tweets don’t work for me, but yet others do). I have a link that says that it is confirmed misfired rocket from inside Gaza and not anything from Israel.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...blast-caused-by-islamic-jihad-rocket-misfire/

    So who to believe…. Hmmm not terrorists that’s for sure. Israel isn’t the most trustworthy either. I’ll stick to my let’s wait and see.
     
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    While the comparison to the JDAM-- meaning an Israeli bomb-- sounds like a match, I didn't hear any actual explosion, in the Palestinian bomb example, so the difference in the sound of their flights, might have been due to proximity of the missile, to the recording device. I will therefore have to say that this Twitter/"X" post, is inconclusive.
     
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  15. Bob Newhart

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    Maybe you should leave your military post in Israel or use a vpn?
     
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    Actually, yes, I can argue with a video of a rocket falling on the hospital . No provenance.
     
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    ^The ONLY Explanation that makes sense...
    And, What Follows?
    A List of Complete IDIOTS (who jumped the gun):
    Several world leaders have condemned the attack.
    Here are some of the early key reactions:
    Palestine
    A spokesman for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas denounced the air raid as an act of “genocide” and a “humanitarian catastrophe”.
    Abbas has also withdrawn from a previously scheduled meeting with US President Joe Biden, who is set to arrive in the region on Wednesday.
    Jordan
    In a statement on Tuesday, the Jordanian foreign ministry strongly condemned Israel’s attack and emphasised the need for international protection for Palestinian civilians and an end to the fighting.
    King Abdullah II said Israel’s bombing of Gaza hospital was a “massacre” and a “war crime” that one cannot be silent about.
    Egypt
    The Egyptian government has issued a statement denouncing the attack “in the strongest terms”, calling on the international community to step in and prevent further violations.
    Qatar
    Qatar’s foreign ministry said the attack marked a dangerous escalation.
    “The expansion of Israeli attacks over the Gaza Strip to include hospitals, schools, and other population centres is a dangerous escalation,” the statement reads.
    World Health Organization (WHO)
    “WHO strongly condemns the attack on Al Ahli Arab Hospital”, the UN health agency’s director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said on the social media platform X, adding that early reports indicate “hundreds of deaths and injuries”.
    “We call for the immediate protection of civilians and health care, and for the evacuation orders to be reversed.
    The Arab League
    Arab League chief Ahmed Aboul Gheit said that international leaders must “stop this tragedy immediately” in response to the attack.
    “What diabolical mind intentionally bombards a hospital and its defenceless inhabitants?” he wrote in a social media post, saying that “Arab mechanisms will document these war crimes and the criminals will not get away with their actions.”
    Turkey
    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has denounced the attack in a statement on social media.
    “Hitting a hospital containing women, children and innocent civilians is the latest example of Israel’s attacks devoid of the most basic human values,” he said.
    “I invite all humanity to take action to stop this unprecedented brutality in Gaza.”
    Canada
    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau condemned the attack and stressed the importance of adhering to the laws of war.
    “The news coming out of Gaza is horrific and absolutely unacceptable … international law needs to be respected in this and in all cases. There are rules around wars and it’s not acceptable to hit a hospital,” Trudeau told reporters.
    Iran
    Iran’s foreign ministry has denounced the air raid as an attack on “unarmed and defenceless people”, Iranian state media reported.
     
  18. Bob Newhart

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    You believe what you want and ignore the evidence.
     
  19. Bob Newhart

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    The four LIES isra*l is current running with:

    1. “We gave the hospital warning to evacuate”

    2. “We attacked an Hamas terrorist base under the hospital”

    3. “Hamas misfired a rocket”

    4. “It was a supposed gas leak”

    Let’s see which one they stick with this time.
     
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    My take:
    There is ZERO Chance that Israel would (intentionally) target a hospital...
     
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    Ummm…was Hamas using the hospital and school to shelter their own fighters/leaders?

    They wouldn’t do something like that right? They aren’t well known for doing exactly that, right?

    naaahhhhhh
     
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    Of course you would believe "baby killers" long before you would EVER believe the closest ally of the United States of America. Wonder how many Hamas were in that hospital anyway? I don't know if all the facts on the hospital are in yet.....but I will stand with the country that gives warning to civilians. Not the one that targets civilians.
    You can scream brutality all you want but we know who started this and how they started it. It must never happen again so they must be rooted out and their lives ended. If it costs lives of those who put the evil ones in power.....so be it!
     
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    I have to agree. Why would Israel intentionally incur the wrath of foreign countries and encourage Muslims from other areas to join the fight?
     

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