And Yet People Defend Hamas

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  1. Roelath

    Roelath Well-Known Member

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    Never read it. Tell me which part isn't true from my earlier statement. Or is this another Boomer moment of calling someone an Anti-Semite to bypass an actual debate/conversation?
     
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    The US is a secular nation. Some countries are theocracies, and some have state religions. Besides, countries are groups of people. If you meant non nation groups, you should say so.
     
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    WTF is a "Boomer moment". If you are younger than me, two things can happen. You will reach the age I am currently at, and you will realize that your age based insult is stupid. Or you may die before you reach 64 and you probably won't realize how silly your comment was
     
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    Why do you think that is. When I was at Yale, the student body had far more than 2% Jewish. The Phi Beta Kappa society was far more than 2% Jewish. Why do you think that is. Many of the top chess masters in the USA are Jewish-three I personally knew. Many of the top legal scholars are Jewish. Why do you think that is?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I assume you mean when 5 Arab nations attacked Israel.

    Yes.
     
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    Years ago genocidal dictator Francisco Macias NGuema was questioned why his death squads were murdering people with sledgehammers or wooden clubs. He was responsible for 20-50,000 being murdered (out of a population of 300,000). He claimed that his country was poor and bullets were expensive-hence the methods of execution involved smashing in the heads of the victims. He was later overthrown and shot by a firing squad, but not before his country was called the Dachau of Western Africa
     
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    One could argue that the Israelis gave the Palestinians legitimate grievances, but nothing could justify what Hamas did. And what Hamas did would not justify Israel doing whatever it wants to innocent civilians either.
     
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    Please learn history.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

    Jewish settlements existed in present day Israel for literally thousands of years, even when that land was controlled by the Ottoman empire.

    This idea that Jews just "took it over" and away from the Arabs is patently false.

    Completely false. The largest concentration of Jews on the planet lived in this region.

    It was arbitrated in 1948 after the Arabs jumped on the nazi bandwagon and attempted to exterminate the jews from the region.

    The nazis lost, and so did the Arabs.

    "The Jews have been a problem for a long time" you say? Wow.

    You say the Jews control the media and thus why everybody else is indoctrinated... yet simply history eludes you and allows you to be an anti-semite.
     
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    Because the WJE had just invaded, yes
     
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    Perhaps some ppl are not easily led, or read or have alternative learning, heaven forbid

    The fact is, there has been a massive over estimation of Jewish intelligence to the point where they have been exposed as quite simply, dunces and need to be put in the corner
     
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    It's due in large part because your generation has had a singular source of news completely controlled by a singular group of people. You're in so deep that rejecting them is akin to doubting everything and that'd be too painful to even suggest. So you resort to just calling me an Anti-Semite.
     
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    the left is soft on Hamas and is riddled with antisemites and Biden-bad.
     
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    if the shoe fits. and your claim about news sources is phony. I have access to the same news sources as those with less life experience and education than I have
     
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    What is interesting is that American Jews generally support the left-something around 70% vote Democrat. Yet, the biggest Jew Haters/Hamas Lovers in the USA are generally leftist
     
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    It was sparsely populated. There wasn't hundreds of thousands living there at that time. The migrations during the British control was when tens or hundreds of thousands of Jews lived in Palestine.

    Not true. They lived in Europe/USA. Even in 1933 there were more Jews in Poland and Russia by x5 compared to Palestine. That was with 10yrs of endless migration from Zionists to colonize the land. Even Hungary hosted more Jews than Palestine.
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    Arbitrated but, never accepted. This would've meant the expulsion of thousands of Muslims from the lands they dwelled in for generations for a foreign group of people upward of 90% not from the region. Terrorist attacks by Jews were commonplace from the 1920s and the rhetoric from the Zionists was supremacist in nature more than any "Nazi" as they wanted extermination. They even committed such barbaric actions such as gunning down children and flamethrowing fleeing civilians. This is all recorded by the men who did it or their squad mates. Unlike the testimonies at Nuremburg or fantasies made up by survivors of the Holocaust.

    Not an argument. The media is controlled by Jews. You only need to look at the owners/management and just look at their history. Find out who owns Blackrock and Vanguard too. How about the porn industry? What about Hollywood? Calling me an Anti-Semite for pointing out facts is whatever. Call me that a thousand times. I'd rather be an Anti-Semite living with the truth rather than an ignorant slave of the 2800.
     

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    It doesn't matter. You could be living in Aztec Mexico and still believe that the Sun won't rise until you kill a hundred people. You might be more educated but, that doesn't mean much when you're only told one story continually and thus anything differing from it sounds like idiocy/heresy.
     
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    I am not blinded by Islamist propaganda combined with a tertiary case of an anti Jewish bias.
     
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    Jews such as Rupert Murdoch?
     
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    Not Islamist about the information I'm presenting. Nationalist Europeans have decided to open the books and research on their own rather than deferring to "experts" to make decisions for them. Being able to process information isn't solely limited to the "experts". Thus conclusions could be made and the conclusion is that Jewish influence in the media is overwhelming. Up until the internet came around there was no other sources that weren't controlled by Jews. It's just coincidence that power and the narrative are controlled by a singular group of people. That in one hand blame White people and the other claim to be White when it suits them.

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    do you see Jews hiding under your bed at night. You do know that Jews are not a monolithic force. Example. The Federalist society has, among its five founders, Peter Keisler (Jewish) Lee Liberman Otis (Jewish), and Steven Calabresi (father Jewish, mother Episcopalian). Allan Gottlieb-who owns Merril Press and several radio stations. He is Jewish and a major league defender of Second Amendment rights-his publishing company reflects that. BTW Ted Turner isn't Jewish
     
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    It reminds me a LOT of 9/11. Some Terrorists got lucky due to a massive falure of intelligence on the part of a large state, and are now reacting not as if it was a crime, but as if it was an act of war and as if Palestinians in general are all terrorists to be bombed, starved, etc. The people responsible for the terrorism should be brought to justice. The Palestinian people, half of them children, should not be punished collecitvely. Hamas was put into power before many of these people were even born. And saying they should die because they haven't overthrown Hamas, is like saying 9/11 was justified due to attrocities done by the US government, and the Americans not overthrowing it.
     
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    No necessarily, no. Nazis hated Jews for simply being jews. Many Palestinians hate Jews because of the actions of Israel. Its still wrong and sick, but it is a bit different.
     
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    Radical Islamists have been killing INFIDELS for over a thousand years. The Book of Sura in the Koran tells them to.
     
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    So basically, you were unable to countrr anything I said, and the facts presented, so you just turn to the "you're stupid" response.

    You couldn't counter it, because you know it's true. So that leads me to my question. If you know your perspective and agenda falls on its face in the name of facts, why do you continue to push a narrative and hold an opinion you know is wrong?
     

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