And Yet People Defend Hamas

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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, that just gives Arabs the authority to eradicate the Jews from their settlements?

    What is the population threshold that prevents them from being subjected to attack?

    In 1933, yes. Prior that no. The largest concentration of Jews existed in present day Israel. Are you surprised to fled to USA and Poland after constant attempts to exterminate them by Arabs? As you defended above "well, there weren't many of them, so oh well"

    You keep saying this. Jews were in this region since before the 16th century. They didnt just move in and take the land from the Jews. Thats wholly false.

    And the arabs didnt need to "accept" carving out some of the land for the establishment of Isreal. The Arabs lost the war, so it was taken from them to protect the Jews.

    If the Arabs didnt try to commit genocide against them on the back of the nazi movement, thry wouldnt have had their land given to the Jews.

    Again, false facts trying to make the Arabs out as victims.

    Post examples so we can look at the whole story. Doubtful this was anything but retaliation and defense.

    You can't even understand that historical records, which has no bearing on the media, proves that your "facts" are false.
     
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    You know they kill basically everyone who isn’t them…forever. Jewish, gay, anyone from the West…doesn’t matter. They’re nuts. Not really different at all. They have no standards who they hate the most. They just hate EVERYONE.
     
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    Right the US is a government. As I asked where are the Muslim religious groups condemn Hamas?
     
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    Follow the money: COLLUSION: Ivy League among top recipients of $8.5 billion Arab funding: Students at American universities are currently exhibiting overwhelming support for Hamas and condemnation of the state of Israel.

    'Qatar has given American universities $4.3 billion over 35 years, according to a 2021 report by Executive Director of the American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise Dr. Mitchell Bard.'

    And when they demanded protests, US campuses promptly complied.

    'Arab governments and individuals have been providing American universities with hundreds of grants to create chairs and centers in Middle Eastern and Islamic studies. '

    'Student groups at major gift recipients have come out against Israel in droves since the start of the latest Israel-Palestine conflict—beginning with the Hamas terrorist attack on Israeli civilians on Oct. 7. '

    'Cornell is the single largest recipient of Arab funding with over $1.5 billion gifted between 127 gifts or contracts. Qatar also signed contracts with Cornell for six years prior to 2020 for the strange amount of $99,999,999.'
     
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    And the Bible says to not suffer witches to live, not be yolked with non-believers, and stone people to death for trivial non-crimes.

    If you want to see how Muslims could be behaving absent combative neighbors and the resulting tribalism, look to modern day Indonesia... Or Michigan.
     
  6. Nemesis

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    Umm, you brought up the US. You can do the research on groups condemning the attacks, can’t you? I’ve found many; you should be able to.
     
  7. Esau

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    No idea what you're jabbering on about. Try a different translation software, yours might be buggy.

    No body called you stupid. I said Israelis have poor intelligence, probably the lowest intelligence in all the region.
     
  8. Roelath

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    Your claims that they were natives wasn't true. They were a foreign people who were invading. Their three terrorist organizations was setup purposefully for the Zionist State of Israel to exist through Western leaders such President Truman with a mailbomb or bombing/shooting Arabs that dwelled in the territory they were looking to take over. The migrations that occurred are no different if the people south of the USA began to forcefully take land and commit acts of terror to reclaim lost Spanish land. Could you really say someone from Bolvia or Chile really has claim to California because Spain had it part of its territory at one point? Not try saying "As an Italian we deserve almost all of the land of Europe because we owned it once". Doesn't that sound stupid? Italians forcefully uprooting British people because they once ruled it.

    The year you used wasn't at all accurate. If the numbers you presented existed in the Ottoman Empire it would've meant that they were natives to that region. But they weren't. Meaning 90%+ were all foreign people. It was an invading force.

    Yes, just as there were gypsies all throughout Europe in the same time period too. Do gypsies have claim over the lands they simply migrated to and from? They did just move in. Any claim otherwise is ignoring the data present. Did 90k Jews suddenly have 500k babies? No, it was all migrations. Yeah, the Arabs lost but it doesn't diminsh my claim that the Jews weren't natives to that region. Even the new fledging state of Israel had western backed help with countries selling weapons to them illegally.

    What Nazi movement? This is 1948 when the state of Israel was declared so 3yrs after Germany capitulated. Nazis were a German Socialist Party. There were no German leaders in Israel. Throwing the term Nazi as if it justifies something is ridiculous. Because if you were to examine the Jews they're the nation from the start to today that closely align with the extermination policies they claim the Nazis had. The Jews prior to the State of Israel tried liquidating the Arabs on continual basis and tried to force them out of the regions due to their own "racial superiority". This was even before Hitler came to power they were looking to genocide the Arabs in the area.

    Not going to go through all the wikis/histories. Here is a short video of "glorious" Israeli heroes.


    "History is written by the victors."
    If Social Marxism wasn't winning why are there gender/trans books in public schools? How can Social Marxists rewrite history turning a once proudly stood figure such as Washington or Jefferson into "Evil Old White men"? History is always rewritten to favor those who want power so why wouldn't an apparatus purposefully make history favor them? If you control the narrative you can do as you wish. You can report 90% of the facts and leave out the 10% that could change the entire perspective.

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    It's crazy that any person who isn't Jewish can be split but, there 99% support for Israel if you happen to be Jewish. It doesn't matter if you're a Leftist like Mark Rubin. Someone proudly exclaiming free speech up until it involves not supporting Israel. Do I see them as a monolithic group? Of course. They all work together and their own culture promotes tribalism. While western thought is about meritocracy they're straight up nepotistic. You can present any standing figure like "Babylon Bee" or "Daily Wire" where they support Conservative elements but, ultimately they're there as gatekeepers. The Jews play both sides in order to control both sides. It's why Fox News talks about nothing and CNN talks about nothing. It's all drama TV where everyone doesn't critically look outside and examine the world for themselves. Instead the talking heads owned by Zionists/Jews dictate what is or isn't relevant. The past decade or so we've seen a loss of power they once had because people are more aware now or simply radicalized further than expected. They're even trying to rein back BLM from supporting Palestine but, the golems they've created are going out of control now.
     
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    in a war...both sides claim to be victims

    Israel claims to be a victim and Palestine claims to be a victim

    Hamas does not claim to be a victim...

    I have yet to read a post defending Hamas

    but I have read posts defending the Palestinian people

    psst

    all Palestinians are not supporters of Hamas

    but all jews are supporters of Israel
     
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    I doubt that is true but defending a legitimate nation is legitimate, defending murderous rapists and terrorists is not.
     
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    December 2008 – Israel launches a 22-day military offensive in Gaza after rockets were fired at the southern Israeli town of Sderot. About 1,400 Palestinians and 13 Israelis killed before a ceasefire is agreed upon.

    November 2012 – Israel kills Hamas’s military chief of staff, Ahmad Jabari, followed by eight days of Israeli air raids on Palestine.

    July-August 2014 – The kidnap and killing of three Israeli teenagers by Hamas leads to a seven-week war in which more than 2,100 Palestinians are killed in Gaza along with 73 Israelis, including 67 soldiers.

    March 2018 – Palestinian protests begin at Gaza’s fenced border with Israel and Israeli troops open fire to keep them back. More than 170 Palestinians killed in several months of protests, prompting fighting between Hamas and Israeli forces.

    May 2021 – After weeks of tension during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, hundreds of Palestinians are injured by Israeli security forces at the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in Jerusalem. Hamas demanded Israel withdraw security forces from the compound. Israel launched air raids on Gaza in response to what it said were rockets fired from Gaza. In the fighting that went on for 11 days, at least 260 people were killed in Gaza and 13 died in Israel.

    August 2022 – More than 30 Palestinians, including women and children, killed in new air attacks carried out by Israeli planes. Palestinian Islamic Jihad, whose two commanders were killed in the air strikes, fires dozens of rockets into Israel in response.


    The attack by Hamas "comes after nearly two decades of the US and world leaders overlooking the more than 2 million people living in Gaza who endure a humanitarian nightmare, with its airspace and borders and sea under Israeli control. The attack comes amid an ongoing failure to grapple with the dangerous situation for Palestinians in the West Bank where Israel’s extreme-right government over the past year has escalated the already brutal daily pain of occupation.

    Instances of Israeli security forces and Israeli settlers antagonizing Palestinians through violence are on the rise"
     
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    Oh gosh that’s easy. Zionism is a political ideology. Israel is a country/nation.
     
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    hopefully this will open some eyes.

    NYC law firm rescinds job offers to Columbia, Harvard students over Israel letters

    A prestigious Big Apple law firm has revoked job offers to three students at Harvard and Columbia universities after the Ivy League students signed controversial letters supporting the Palestinians in the wake of Hamas’ deadly slaughter in Israel.

    https://nypost.com/2023/10/18/davis...olumbia-harvard-students-over-israel-letters/
     
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    It should. Like yours.

    A very small percentage of people “support” Hamas. And those who do are more likely to be Jew hating kooks on the far right.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I posted a bunch of facts about Israeli settlements in that area. You ignored all that to say "Jew's stupid". That is what your argument has degraded to?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is patently false.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histo...d across,Byzantine, Ottoman and Yemenite Jews.

    Until we can come to agreement on this and stop your false narrative, no other discussion matters.

    Jewish communities have existed across the Middle East and North Africa since Antiquity. By the time of the Muslim conquests of the 7th century, these ancient communities had been ruled by various empires and included the Babylonian, Persian, Carthaginian, Greek, Roman, Byzantine, Ottoman and Yemenite Jews.

    Are you claiming this is inaccurate?
     
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    Most ppl agree that Israeli intelligence is seriously lacking having let some paragliders in and kill so many settlers
     
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    And.... again you dodge.
     
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    I don't see anyone on the far right cheering Hamas in the USA-rather its woke students and-on this board-far lefties
     
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    I am waiting for the anti semitic types to claim that Jews control that old WASPY law firm and that is why Davis Polk rescinded offers to Jihadist supporters
     
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    They're invaders when 90% coming from different parts of the world. Just because Hispanic people live in the USA doesn't mean an influx of millions pouring through borders isn't an invasion. Especially when those same people commit acts of terror campaigns and striving to claim all of the territory for themselves. I posted the figures showing upwards of 90k at the tailend of the Ottoman Empire. Having that number triple to quadruple in the space of a decade or two isn't a "return" to their homelands. It's a foreign element that hasn't lived in that land looking to make it theirs. If I have to repeat that point over and over against this conversation can't continue. I can show you actual data of the people present and you mention "communities". There is a community of furries in the USA when do they get their Furry State?
     
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    Why would any American Nationalist support Hamas? I don't want Palestinians in my peoples lands. I'm against Israel because they're looking to expel them to the west meaning more refugees/terror/welfare recipients while also trying to have the USA engage in another foreign war. I wish the USA had the stones to send two carrier groups towards the Gulf of Mexico with the goal of wiping out the cartels and stopping the flow of illegals.
     
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    what land is this
     
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    Deflection noted..
     

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