Indicted Republican lawmaker George Santos expelled from U.S. House

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  1. Nemesis

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    You mean they can't expel him based on her behavior? Shocking.
     
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    did you disagree with Graham under Clinton?

    Remember when the right actually pretended to be the family values party, the moral right, the religious right.....
     
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    Yes he did as I cited to you and you could not refute, take it back there if you think you can.
     
  4. Egoboy

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    Obviously not.

    But the House made it pretty clear the minimum required to consider expulsion.... Criminal conviction or damning Ethics report.

    Menendez will likely get both at some point, but the Senate won't move without one of em...

    And certain people just don't get that.... or they do, and willfully ignore it and continue to pretend I'm defending Menendez by pointing it out....
     
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    Post the court record.
    Otherwise your fake “cite” doesn’t need to be refuted as it isn’t a court record and factual.
     
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  6. Nemesis

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    He’s claiming to be correct because he was previously incorrect but “won” the argument, according to himself.
     
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    You know, I almost understand that.

    It is tough trying to understand the mobius strip logic of MAGAs and righties.
     
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  8. Nemesis

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    I’ll rephrase.

    He made that erroneous claim before. When it was pointed out that the claim was untrue, he declared “victory” on some imaginary basis.

    Fast forward to this week. He’s making the same untrue claim. His claim remains “unrebutted” according to him; this means that he wins!

    Hard to grasp, I know.
     
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    And then everything after your “However” puts ethics to one side, in favour of pandering to the thugs…
     
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    Dante's Law..
     
  11. Nemesis

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    Where’s @Bluesguy to answer for these shenanigans? He needs to rectify this wrongdoing.
     
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    Nope, I think all it takes is a 2/3 vote of congress. I don't believe the ones kicked out for supporting the confederacy were ever convicted of a crime either but maybe someone knows for sure.
     
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    IMO, removing Representatives undermines the integrity and credibility of the electoral process and our government.

    Representatives, as opposed to employees serving their bosses, serve the people they represent while acting as a check on the power of the US Government.
    "Also referred to as a congressman or congresswoman, each representative is elected to a two-year term serving the people of a specific congressional district."
    https://www.house.gov/representatives

    But I do agree that this action cannot knock down confidence in government vey much. It is already too close to the bottom to drop much further.

    PEW RESEARCH CENTER, Public Trust in Government: 1958-2022, Public trust in government near historic lows, Public trust in government remains low, as it has for much of the 21st century. Only two-in-ten Americans say they trust the government in Washington to do what is right “just about always” (2%) or “most of the time” (19%). Trust in the government has declined somewhat since last year, when 24% said they could trust the government at least most of the time., FEATURE, JUNE 6, 2022.
    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/06/06/public-trust-in-government-1958-2022/
     
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    I'd recommend a course in remedial logic, because you are seeing conclusions that are clearly not indicated there. Are you hearing voices, telling you what the words say?
     
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    He's trying (and failing) to be clever by capturing our answers to that question, then coming back some awesome future day and point out that there doesn't need to be a crime to impeach Old Joe...

    Which is 100% true..

    Although there generally needs to be a decent reason... that reasonable people believe...
     
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    Did/does Scamto get money for any of this?
    The book.
    The movie.

    'George Santos Movie In Works At HBO Films From ‘Veep’ EP Frank Rich'

    EXCLUSIVE: The meteoric political rise of George Santos and the web of fabulist tales it was built on are getting a movie treatment. HBO Films has optioned the rights to Mark Chiusano’s new book The Fabulist: The Lying, Hustling, Grifting, Stealing, and Very American Legend of George Santos, which was published on November 28, 2023.

    The news comes on the heels of Santos’ Washington D.C. career coming to a dramatic end yesterday when he was expelled from Congress for alleged ethics violations, including donor funds spent on racy subscription website OnlyFans and Botox treatments. He has denied the charges and has vowed to fight back.'

    cont:
    https://deadline.com/2023/12/george-santos-movie-hbo-films-frank-rich-1235649730/
     
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    God, I hope they don't name the movie the same as the book... that's quite a mouthful...

    But if they give him the Veep treatment, it could be one of the great comedy's of all time.... after all, when telling his story, there IS no truth you have to stick to...

    Here are some movie names I like better

    - Temporary Congressman
    - The Liar King (not animated, but soundtrack by Elton John)
    - Mr. Santos goes to Washington
    - Incurious George (also not animated)

    Also, that guy Bowen Yang on SNL does a laughable impression.... need a comedian to play that role...
     
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    IF you buy a case of eggs or anything and find some of them are rotten, you remove the rotten ones so you will have only good ones to work with. The removal of unfit members of Congress is the same. That does not undermine the integrity of government, it increases it. The problem is not in the idea of removing the unfit- but of how it's done.

    The process today is peer to peer, meaning a motion to remove invariably becomes a partisan attack, and opens the door to a counter-attack.
    What is needed is a fully independent supervision of congressional ethics with the authority to enforce the rules that already exist, but nobody follows.

    I've used the example of umpires at a ball game to get the point across. Peer-to -Peer would be no umpires; the players making the calls themselves. The runner says "Im safe", the baseman says "you're out", and they both have equal power. Strike or ball- same thing. That's congress. They don't play by the real rules that are already in place. They play by the defacto rules allow anything you can get by with, and everyone has no choice but to do that. Power structure in Congress allows cheating, but frowns on getting caught and making them look corrupt. The real rules can be summed up in the Oath of office and the Fiduciary Duty of office.
    The Fiduciary says- Every decision must be made in the best interests of those you represent, that you must be honest in all activities, and be completely transparent in all you do.
    Those ARE the real rules of ethics that apply here- and you can't name a single member of Congress that abides by them.

    Imagine what would change if Congress had to live by those rules to keep their jobs. Kind of a come-to Jesus moment, where they adopt a new religion- Honor.

    The government should be 100% trustworthy. I'd settle for 80% as passable.
     
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    As I showed you only 2% of Americans actually trust the government "just about always".
    IMO, a case of rotten eggs is in no position to discriminate against rotten eggs.

    Santos worked for the people of his district who had the power to remove him from office.
    Virtue signaling from a House full of rotten eggs can't reduce the stench.
     
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    Furious George

    Yang was pretty good .
     
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    The Poodle of Wall Street
     
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    Swap Georgie for an American in a Brazilian jail.
     
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    .Anybody worked with George Santos @ GS or Citi?
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    Wall Street Oasis
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    Dec 27, 2022 — Santos described himself as a "seasoned Wall Street financier and investor" and said he had worked for Citigroup and Goldman Sachs, but ...

    34 answers · Top answer: Agree with the guy above. Man has serious issues. His whole life is a lie. Some interesting ...


     

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    A obese liar finds out what life is about/

    Ear Eat Eat
     
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