What is it about Jew-Hating that the left finds so alluring?

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  1. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Yes correct. I'd argue he hated Slavs more than communist. The Russian revolution that took place in late 1910's screwed up a ton of things in eastern europe/ west asia.
     
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    Thank You I had been unaware of that. New information is always of use.
     
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    Jew-hating has been going on for as long as I can remember, on the left and right.



    As for what's happening in Israel....

    Palestinians need to accept that Jews will not leave "Palestine." When the colonial period ended after WW2, there were too many Jews and Muslims in Palestine for either side to force the other out. Palestinians should have accepted the UN Plan that Jews said they would accept. They also could have been satisfied with the situation they had until 1967.

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    Israel, I think, should declare provisional borders on the West Bank and Gaza--borders that will never get smaller, but could get larger. These should be protectorates until the Palestinians stop trying to destroy Israel. It follows that Israel will have to occupy Palestinian territory indefinitely.

    Being as generous as possible with the boundaries of the West Bank in particular is important.
     
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    I am frustrated by the position of some on the left and right that defend one evil while vilifying the other evil. Clearly too many think that some civilian lives are more precious than other civilian lives.
     
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    Most Republicans support Israel, most Democrats do not and independents are split. Nearly 25% of Republicans are against Israeli action and roughly 1/3 of Democrats support it.
     
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    Dislike of Jewish ppl is both a right and left occupation. No one side has the edge in that regard.
     
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    Supporting Israel by financial means can equate to anti semitism(islamaphobic) in that it seeks to help destroy islamic hegemony. The Jewish ppl are merely pawns in this crusade perhaps.
     
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    Again, that's not what you initially said. And you still get the dates wrong. It STARTED in 1933. Not 1935. It STARTED then. That's when they took citizenship away from Jews who were naturalized citizens. Also (and this is another fact you are incapable of addressing): Nazis ANNOUNCED they were going to take citizenship away from Jews before they even took power.




    Then no nation has private property.
     
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    For once we agree on something.
     
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    These are all things I've told you and now you are literally arguing with yourself. I stated that the laws against Jews didn't start with a strip of their citizenship, that was later after numerous other laws against Jews were first passed. That happened in 1935. The first laws against Jews happened in 1933, per my provided resource. They started getting Jews into camps towards the end of 36.
     
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    They began stripping citizenship from Jews the same year they took power. And you said I was wrong when I stated that the Nazis began taking citizenship from Jews from the beginning (an intention they loudly announced), not at the end of their reign. That's what you originally called false. Now you are changing your story. And funny how you ran away from that last part: the part where you said that every country that exists and that has ever existed is socialist.
     
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    In this forum, the Anti Israel brigade is nearly all leftists. There are a few exceptions, but not many.
     
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    And equating anti-Israel with being anti-Jewish is itself anti-Semitic.
     
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    You are prolly the ONLY Jewish person on this forum whom iHave ever agreed with on anything.
     
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    Im not sure that I did. Nor am I going to get bogged down in semantics that only serve to go off on a tangent.

    Call it whatever you like. The anti Israel brigade in this forum is almost all from the left with only a few exceptions. If you were to look at a prison population of white supremacist skinheads you may be able to say it comes mostly from the right, but that isnt the topic. I am referring specifically to this forum.
     
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    So your claim has nothing to do with the OP? Good to know.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My reply was to a post on page 4 of a thread, and in all honesty I am not even sure if I read the OP unless it was a few days ago. Topics morph quite freqently in here and respinding to various posts is an example of responding to buliding blocks of the discussion emanating from the OP.

    Is that also good to know? Yeesh. You act as if that is unusual.
     
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    No they didnt. Power was in 1933. Law striping citizenship 1935. Ive provided facts, you havent. Clearly said they took citizenship before they moved them to camps. Quote me saying otherwise.

    No clue where you got that I said every country ever is socialist. Quote where that was said because to anyone reading you just come across as angry from losing the debate.
     
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    Yeah, who cares about the actual topic?
     
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    They started with naturalized Jews . . . in 1933. And your original claim was not that they took citizenship before moving them to the camps . . . which weren't even really being discussed at the time. YOUR claim was that the Nazis waited until "the end" to take away their citizenship. Please read the thread.

    And, yes, you said every country in which the government can transfer ownership of property from one person to another (which is ALL countries) is one in which private property does not exist. Feel free to rewrite that claim, though, as you did before. And NO, I never said Nazis waited until "the end." That was YOUR claim. I never made that claim. I made the opposite. Please try reading.
     
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    Name names, I won't report. Otherwise it's empty rhetoric
     
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    There is an OP. The people respond to that OP. The posts all emanate from that discussion. Various posts are the building blocks of that overall discussion that was fostered by the OP.

    A person may argue from an OP talking about US GDP that China has the largest in the world driven by their silk trade. I may respond by saying that China has the number 2 GDP and their main export is electronics.

    While my response is not directly talking about US GDP as outlined in the OP, it is relevant to the claim that someone is saying that they are number 2 behind China.

    Is this principle somehow confusing to you?

    Good to know.
     
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    Nazis were/are left-wing
    they are socialists
     
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    It's always good to get back on topic, no?
     
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    Cool. Let me know when you are interested in the topic.
     

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