What is it about Jew-Hating that the left finds so alluring?

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Oh but there are many right wingers here that oppose Israeli ethnic cleansing, my friend bill Carson, my friend destroyer, my friend grau, my friend James California etc etc, I've got many right wing friends here that oppose Israeli savagery.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is literally going nowhere. I have addressed this precise notion in several posts to you.

    It is time to move on.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. There are a few, but I have already said that from the beginning.

    Im not sure why you feel the need to put out a few names.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Good. We agree it has nothing to do with the topic and that being critical of Israel is not automatically "Jew hating."
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So the general defense here seems to be they are this hateful because one group took out more civilians than the other group? So does that mean there is some "acceptable" number of Civilian deaths where its OK? What is the metric for that? Where does that begin? is the formula (# of civilians hamas kills) + 1 ?
    Also, how does unfavorable treatment of civilians justify things like tearing down pictures of hostages? What does that accomplish? The hostages are civilians too, doh!
    So far none of the defenses I have seen in here hold any weight (maybe like 0.00005 grams)
    Got anything better as a justification for this vile behavior?
    Ready.......GO!!!!
     
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  6. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    iCan reel off many more of my righties is you want??
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can if you wish, it still is but a tiny fraction of those that consistently weigh in on these anti-Isrsael threads. Have at it.

    On a spearate note, I glanced at your posting history. What is it that in your mind makes you a rightist? A quick glance shows that you tend to be anti western, but what issues make you rightist specifically? That is a sincere question.

    I am curious as to what makes your belief system similar to mine. I suspect that you must be using a definition that differs from the American right.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We do not agree. Stop trying to pretend like we do. It is dishonest and you know it. Now be an adult and please move on.
     
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    It's not about the numbers. It's about the rhetoric coming out of Israeli spokespersons. It just one insane lie after the next in an attempt to portray palestinians as a fire threat to the white race, in particular to the white women that is in grave danger of being sexually exploited by the non white sub human
     
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    So you are now backpedaling. Also, I've seen @Esau promote Biblical law here on the forums, perhaps more than anyone else I've seen here. It's probably the main thing we disagree about. I don't know how much more right wing you can get, at least socially. I don't know where he stands economically.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For crying out loud I have not backpedaled on one solitary thing. Im not into the aimless bickering. Please move on.
     
  12. Esau

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    iAm a supporter of Saudi regime and African nations in their resistance to the LGBT mafia and am opposed to unrelenting immigration into the UK. Many many so-called right wing issues
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    So you are claiming that it is anti-Semitic to criticize Israel?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess I can see how that sort of aligns with the right, but that alone is not proof positive.

    I am anti death penalty, pro abortion, and pro gay marriage. I wouldnt take that information and call myself a leftist. That calculation os far more complex than that and id say most people tend to have a few issues on both sides of the aisle. I am mostly right, I call myself a rightist, but I also support a few leftist causes.

    What principally makes you a rightist in your mind? Is it solely becuas of your opposition to LGBT and immigration into the UK? That doesnt seem like the primary basis for a political ideology to me. In my experience, the bulk of anti west sentiment at least in this country tends to come from the left.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please cut and paste what I said that leads you to that conclusion.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    So you aren't saying this has anything to do with the topic . . . which is what I said . . . and you said you never claimed that?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please cut and paste whatever I said that makes you think that I am claiming it is anti semitic to criticize Israel.

    ...or you could act like an adult and simply move on as I have encouraged several times now. I think we both know which option you will choose.
     
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    So we are back to agreeing that it isn't anti-Semitic to do so? Are we just going to keep ping-ponging like this?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you cannot (will not) cut and paste what I have said that leads you to that conclusion. Color me shocked.
     
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    Dude, just let me know where you end up landing. You keep changing positions.
     
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    Hamas wishes to exterminate the state of Israel and as many Jews as they can. They get paid armed and equip by Iran to do so. Those are the facts. From those facts two things may be derived. 1st Israel has no choice but to eliminate Hamas. 2nd because Hamas counts on the deaths of Gazans to get the dumber westerners to pressure Israel to stop with the job half done or less. A hell of a lot of Gazans are going to die unnecessarily because it is part and parcel of the Hamas battle plan.
     
  22. Esau

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    In actuality I'm centrist since iCan play both left and right extremely well but that's what makes a great arbiter but less about me please, such vanity upsets my equilibrium
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you cannot provide the cut and paste and instead want to pretend like I have somehow changed my position.

    Strange logic, but I guess I should be used to that by now at this point in the conversation.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fair enough, and I appreciate your honesty.

    So it is not exactly correct to call you a rightist.

    That is sort of what I thought and why I asked.
     
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    Israelis wishes to exterminate palestinians and as many arabs as they can. They get paid armed and equip by USA to do so. Those are the facts. From those facts two things may be derived. 1st palestine has no choice but to eliminate idf. 2nd because Israelis counts on the deaths of October 7 to get the dumber westerners to pressure hamas to stop with the job half done or less. A hell of a lot of israelis are going to die unnecessarily because it is part and parcel of the israelis battle plan.

    Ones argument is redundant when it can be thrown right back at you
     
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