What is it about Jew-Hating that the left finds so alluring?

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    How were they any more socialist than the rest of the western world at the time?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its not empty to those that are around here enough to know the leanings of most posters AND are also intellectually honest.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Topics often go in a lot of different directions.

    Do you not know this?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So me saying that the anti Israel brigade in this forum is almost exclusively from the left is off topic in your mind?
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Quote where I said that.

    Wrong. I said if the government can transfer your property to another person, it's not private property. Quote me saying otherwise.

    Time for you to back up your accusations and wild claims with actual proof.
     
  6. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    If you are claiming that being critical of Israel is "jew hating," then sure, it's on topic. Otherwise, no.
     
  7. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Meh....you just would rather against the notion of whether anti Israel is jew hating or just anti Israel. I can understand why, it is an easier argument to wage while avoiding the notion that this anti Israel nonsense is mostly from the left.

    I am sorry for not making the argument that you wanted to oppose. Me and my bad habit of using proper language. Its hard to argue against.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    You claimed I was wrong when I stated otherwise.



    All governments can do that. That's the point.

    Which of these things do you not understand? 1) You said I was wrong when I said that Nazis started removing citizenship from Jews at the beginning of their reign, rather than the end or 2) That you claimed "if the government can transfer your property to another person, it's not private property" or 3) both.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    That's what it would take in order for your claim to apply to the topic. I'm sorry reality offends, but it will remain reality.

    And I'm sorry that your argument has nothing to do with the topic, by your own admission.
     
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    Your white flag of surrender is accepted.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Your unwillingness to read is acknowledged. Both things I stated are objectively true. You claimed both things: that I was wrong about Nazis attacking Jewish citizenship from the beginning (not waiting for the end) and that any country in which the government can transfer property from one person to another is a country in which private property does not exist. This, again, would be all countries.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I dont blame you for not wanting to defend that the anti Israel brigade is almost all leftist in here.

    It really is shocking. It does not constitute a large portion of the left, but of those that are in here daily bashing Israel, they are almost all from the left with only a few exceptions.

    I am too smart to get into an argument with you whether or not they hate Jews or just Israel. You ( they) can say no and nobody can say differently, but even that concept is in question when the actions of those people are analyzed. They were bashing Israel before they even had retaliated. Their reaction was clearly baked into the cake.
     
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    Empty rhetoric
     
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    And I don't blame you for not being able to explain how that has anything to do with the topic.
     
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    They do go in different directions and also disinformation spreads like wildfire.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not to the intellectually honest.

    I apologize if that excludes you. That was not my intent.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am too smart to get into an argument with you whether or not they hate Jews or just Israel. You ( they) can say no and nobody can say differently, but even that concept is in question when the actions of those people are analyzed. They were bashing Israel before they even had retaliated. Their reaction was clearly baked into the cake.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not always.

    These are complex topics that have many different webs that intersect and all help to build the larger discussion.

    I am surprised this is news to you. I assume that most people are observant. Forgive me for assuming as much.
     
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    I've seen many right wingers, me included, that are opposed to Israeli ethnic cleansing.
     
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    I'm Jewish. It is okay to criticize Israel. It's anti-Semitic to claim that every Jew in the world has to support everything Israel ever does and that anyone who criticizes anything Israel does or has ever done is being anti-Jewish.
     
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    Complex?

    Maybe to you but it's pretty simple over here.
     
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    While I do not know you or your leanings, I will take you at your word.

    Good thing I said there are a few exceptions. Apparently, you are one of them.
     
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    Good thing I did not say that.

    Are you trying to argue against a point that I have not raised?
     
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    Then you are admitting your argument has nothing to do with the topic.

    If that's not the point you are raising, then you have no "point" related to the topic.
     
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    So there are not complex topics that can sp[read like a spider web in a political chat room?

    What a strange statement.
     

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