What is it about Jew-Hating that the left finds so alluring?

They did favor socialism . . . before Hitler took over and kicked out the socialists. And why is it that Jews are often blamed for being socialist masterminds?

 

Hitler's Nazi's definitely were socialist, Socialist lead by an authoritative dictator. He may have kicked out competing socialist and kicked/killed out any communist. I don't see Jews being accused of being socialist masterminds, just money controlling/ industry controlling masterminds. But people forget history and don't understand why the Jewish people went that route once stripped of their homeland by Christians and Muslims.

 

They were far from socialist. There were two socialist leaders in the party: the Strasser brothers. Hitler had one killed and the other went into exile, writing a pamphlet called "Socialists leave the Nazi Party." Hitler oulawed by the socialist party and the communist party. He outlawed organized labor. He went on a MASSIVE privatization effort . . . which is the opposite of socialism.

 

Yardmeat, it's in the name. What do you think NAZI stands for? Adolf Hitler was appointed chancellor of Germany on January 30, 1933, bringing an end to German democracy. Guided by racist and authoritarian ideas, the Nazis abolished basic freedoms and sought to create a "Volk" community. In theory, a "Volk" community united all social classes and regions of Germany behind Hitler. Culture, the economy, education, and law came under greater Nazi control. Trade unions were abolished and workers, employees, and employers were forced into Nazi organizations. By mid-July 1933, the Nazi Party was the only political party permitted in Germany. The Reichstag (German parliament) became a rubber stamp for Hitler's dictatorship. The Fuehrer's will became the foundation for government policy.

I get liberals like to try and pretend the National socialist party wasn't socialist, but their policies are all socialist policies enforced by authoritarian methods.

 

I don't share your belief that North Korea is a republic just because it is in the name. And why do you think Hitler named the party? He didn't.

Hitler literally had his original debates when fighting for control of the party with Strasser . . . in which Strasser was arguing for more socialism and Hitler was arguing in favor of more privatization . . . the polar opposite of socialism.

 

Nothing was private in Nazi Germany. It was all state owned, therefor people owned. Germans took whatever businesses they wanted, whenever they wanted to do so. They put people who complied in power, and removed those who didn't.

And as far as NK, a republic governed by a dictator is a pretty accurate account. It's just held in place through fear and corruption.

 

History disagrees with you.

They were more aggressive about privatization than ANY western capitalist country. If the Nazis were socialist, so was every other western country, and the Nazis were probably the least socialist of all of them.

That's not a republic. But you didn't learn the basic lesson: people can use a word in their name and be misleading about it.

 

Wrong. Are you honestly going to deny that Nazi's stripped businesses away from Jews and other less desirables and gave them away to loyal party leaders? Really?

Wrong. Nothing was "private" in nazi germany. The government could literally take any business at any point they wanted. Absolutely ridiculous claim.

Wrong again. Republic - a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

Elections in North Korea are held every four-to-five years for the Supreme People's Assembly (SPA), the country's national legislature, and every four years for Local People's Assemblies.[1][2] North Korean elections have been described by many as sham elections.[3] According to official reports, turnout is near 100%, and approval of the ruling party's candidates is unanimous.[1]

All seats are won by the Democratic Front for the Reunification of Korea.[4] The founding and ruling Workers' Party of Korea dominates the Front and holds 87.5% of the seats, with 7.4% for the Korean Social Democratic Party, 3.2% for the Chondoist Chongu Party, and 1.9% for independent deputies.[5]

 

Jews were not citizens. They stripped businesses away from them, but they gave businesses from the government to private citizens.

Then why did they aggressively privatize as much as they could.

Lol, Iove the whole "fake elections = real democracy" bull ****.

 

Jews were citizens when the bulk of their rights were stripped including right to own a business. Their citizenship was one of the last things to go for them before they were taking to death camps. Also, Jews weren't the only victims of Nazi's. Pick up a history book.

Nothing was privatized. It was State property aka Nazi property.

You are confusing voting methods with governing methods.

 

History fail. They were stripped of their citizenship soon after the Nazis won, and that was PART OF THE NAZI PLATFORM FROM THE BEGINNING. Whoever told you that the Nazis waited "until the end" are full of it.

I've read several of them. And my grandfather was one of the victims. Now I issue a challenge to you: if you are going to lecture people about reading books, at least have the courtesty to read POSTS. Because this is the worse straw man I've seen all year. No one said Jews were their only victims.

Again, you are just objectively wrong. They GAVE state property TO private citizens, far more so than any other western nation. WE were more socialist than they were.

You failed to read your own link.

 

Sadly there are people in this world who will support any little dog no matter how rabid it is. Blame those dead Gazans on Hamas

 

Wrong again.
1933–1934
The first wave of legislation, from 1933 to 1934, focused largely on limiting the participation of Jews in German public life. The first major law to curtail the rights of Jewish citizens was the "Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service" of April 7, 1933, according to which Jewish and "politically unreliable" civil servants and employees were to be excluded from state service. The new Civil Service Law was the German authorities' first formulation of the so-called Aryan Paragraph, a kind of regulation used to exclude Jews (and often by extension other "non-Aryans") from organizations, professions, and other aspects of public life.

In April 1933, German law restricted the number of Jewish students at German schools and universities. In the same month, further legislation sharply curtailed "Jewish activity" in the medical and legal professions. Subsequent laws and decrees restricted reimbursement of Jewish doctors from public (state) health insurance funds. The city of Berlin forbade Jewish lawyers and notaries to work on legal matters, the mayor of Munich disallowed Jewish doctors from treating non-Jewish patients, and the Bavarian Interior Ministry denied admission of Jewish students to medical school.

At the national level, the Nazi government revoked the licenses of Jewish tax consultants; imposed a 1.5 percent quota on admission of "non-Aryans" to public schools and universities; fired Jewish civilian workers from the army; and, in early 1934, forbade Jewish actors to perform on the stage or screen.

Local governments also issued regulations that affected other spheres of Jewish life: in Saxony, Jews could no longer slaughter animals according to ritual purity requirements, effectively preventing them from obeying Jewish dietary laws.

I'm reading your post and they are very inaccurate.

If a government can take from one and give to the other, it's not private property. LOL.

 

No they gave stolen Jewish property to others. Weimar didn't own much neither did the Nazis. The Nazi's did however do a bang up job of coopting major German businesses such as Krupp and Rhienmetle and Mercedes and Volkswagen and others. Note Volkswagen literally means people's car It was the Name the Nazis gave them.

 

Someone forgot that the Nazis took power in 1933. So, let's do some math here. You say they started taking away Jewish citizenship in 1933. They took power in 1933 and lost power in 1945 . . . so is 1933 closer to the beginning of their reign, or was it, as you claimed before, at "the end" and closer to 1945? That's all you have to answer: is 1933 closer to 1933 or is it closer to 1945?

History disagrees with you.

You are free to your own mental gymnastics to avoid the facts.

 

Again, compared to every other western country at the time, they were still less socialist. Late in the war, after their aggressive privatization campaign, they did begin coopting some industries for the war effort . . . but so did we . . . so did every country in the war.

 

The paragraph explains their actions in 1933..... lol



Talk about not reading post.

Wrong.

Explain how if its private property, the government can reallocate it? Talk about mental gymnastics.

 

Okay. You clearly aren't reading the posts. If you did, you'd know that I was claiming that the Nazis took away Jewish citizenship at the BEGINNING of their reign and you said it was at the END of their reign. I was saying beginning. You were saying end. Then you posted a link that said I weas right. I'll ask again: the Nazis took over in 1933 and lost power in 1945. So is 1933 closer to the beginning of their reign or to the end? Is 1933 closer to 1933 or is it closer to 1945?

Private property refers to the fact that private individuals own the property, rather than the government owning the property.

 

@Oldyoungin Here it is again. This is what you said I was "wrong" about: "History fail. [Jews] were stripped of their citizenship soon after the Nazis won, and that was PART OF THE NAZI PLATFORM FROM THE BEGINNING. Whoever told you that the Nazis waited "until the end" are full of it.

 

That paragraph shows things that happened Prior to Jews being stripped of citizenship. I said the stripping of their citizenship was one of the last rights to go before they got moved to camps. Not end of Nazi reign. They were citizens up till late 1935. They started getting move into camps in '36. Again, read the post accurately like you demand of others.

It's not private property if the government can take it from one and give it to another.

 

That is not what you stated, and they started removing citizenship in 1933, but we'll go with your amended version from here on out.

What government does not have the ability to take property from one person and give it to another, or the ability to take that property for themselves? You are using an impossibly broad definition that makes ALL countries socialist.

 

Well actually romans unless you're talking Kazan. And no Romans in 70AD were not Christian. That is 250 or so years later.

 

Speaking of which there you go again...

 

You are mainly correct. It bounced back and forth a while with Julian allowing Jews to rebuild and populate Jerusalem but that was foiled fairly quick.

During his short reign, Emperor Julian (361–363) abolished the special taxes paid by the Jews to the Roman government and also sought to ease the burden of mandatory Jewish financial support of the Jewish patriarchate.[96] He also gave permission for the Jews to rebuild and populate Jerusalem.[97] In one of his most remarkable endeavours, he initiated the restoration of the Jewish Temple which had been demolished in 70 CE. A contingent of thousands of Jews from Persian districts hoping to assist in the construction effort were killed en route by Persian soldiers.[98] The great earthquake together with Julian's death put an end to Jewish hopes of rebuilding the Third Temple.[99] Had the attempt been successful, it is likely that the re-establishment of the Jewish state with its sacrifices, priests and Sanhedrin or Senate would have occurred.[96]

Jews probably constituted the majority of the population of Palestine until some time after Constantine converted to Christianity in the 4th century.[100]

 

Don't forget Hitler didn't think much more of slavs than he did Jews, and don't forget Among the tsars title was father of the Slavs, so race was at least peripherally involved there as well. After all if Aryan Germans are the master Race then what does that make all other races?