What is it about Jew-Hating that the left finds so alluring?

No, I don't.

Don't get me wrong - an incidence of terrorism does present excuses for wholesale slaughter.

But, one has to remember that Israel has been waging constant war on Gaza for 20 years. A successful terrorist raid hardly compares to 20 years of war, topped off with the wholesale slaughter of women, children, hospitals, residences, water, food, shelter, etc., etc.

Given the Israeli policy of bulldozing West Bank homes and farms, stealing the property of Palestinians in massive scale along with the constant war against Gaza, one can only assume that the objective is genocide.

And, NOT defense.

 

These are the outfalls of American foreign policy in the ME.

We have a direct hand in the Israeli slaughter of Palestinians through US diplomacy, through vetoes at the UN, through threats to other western countries, and through our financial an military aid donated to Israel for their Zionist objectives.

We support Israel's theft of land owned by Palestinians. We support Israel's decades of war on Gaza.

The very FIRST step toward a solution would be for the USA to get the heck OUT, We clearly can not handle the moral implications of our superpower applied to a struggling people.

 

So, anti-semitic right wing crackpots are insisting that Jewish Americans, most of whom are liberals, are self-haters.

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THE BRIBED JOE ADMINISTRATION IS ON TOP OF ITS GAME AS USUAL: Kirby: We Need Another Pause to Get 8 American Hostages Out of Gaza.

“And why would that be, precisely? Could it be that Joe Biden somehow failed to negotiate their release during the first operational ‘pause’ that he took credit for brokering last month? Biden and his team abandoned 14,000 Americans to the Taliban while bugging out of Afghanistan in August 2021, so we have ample precedent for this kind of disgraceful disregard for American lives by Biden et al. What this looks like, however, is Biden and his team using American hostages as leverage on Israel, manipulating American public opinion to force them into bad deals and eventually a solve-nothing cease-fire that allows Hamas to survive and rebuild … again.”

Hamas must die.

 

Sympathy for Hamas is a very bad reason to dislike Jews.

 

I agree with this part of your statement.

 

Well...my observation and stats I see put a majority chunk of Jews in the Progressive category. I think Fox News is getting a few more Jewish viewers. But as a rule jews tend to align to progressive values and thus the Democrat party.

 

I know but they also watch a lot of TV and see that the self same Democrat Party is increasing antisemitic. You've got guys like Greenwald who I'd still call liberal but he has defintely jumped the progressive ship over free speech issues and other things. Greenwald isn't alone either. Every thing is trending away from the Dems right now because the progressive who run the party have attached themselves to so many fringe groups that are really really loud but not very large demographically.

 

I'm familiar with the concept of self-hating Jews. They're far-left Jews who'd do and say anything to hurt their own people for the sake of an illusory greater good. Noam Chomsky is a perfect example. They're usually anti-American, as well. Not liberals at all.

This concept is frequently used by center-left Jews, by the way. It's not an invention of right-wing crackpots.

 

We have to bring the hostages home first. We have to do everything in our power to bring the hostages home. Then, Hamas will die.

 

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This isn't the first time the left has shown its anti Semitic colors. I don't see many jews jumping ship....from what I see....they have very strong progressive values.

 

State Dept: Hamas refuses to release women hostages to prevent sharing horrors of captivity.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...vent-sharing-horrors-of-captivity/ar-AA1l2hZv

They may be done releasing hostages. The remaining females, which tended to be pretty young adult women, when it came time for Hamas to release them as promised, they blew up the ceasefire.

'The State Department says the U.S. suspects one reason Hamas is refusing to release its remaining female hostages is to prevent them from revealing the horrors they experienced in captivity.'

'Israeli officials believe Hamas still has roughly 18 women in custody, most of whom were kidnapped from an Oct. 7 music festival near the Gaza border, according to Axios. State Department spokesman Matthew Miller says that Hamas' refusal to release the women led to the collapse of the cease-fire on Friday.'

Slowly flooding the tunnels is more likely to save the hostages than bombing them or engaging in gun battles through the tunnels foot by foot.

"It seems that one of the reasons they don't want to turn women over that they've been holding hostage — and the reason this pause fell apart — is that they don't want these women to be able to talk about what happened to them during their time in custody," Miller said during a Monday press briefing.

'The statement comes amid heightened tensions regarding Hamas' brutal treatment of women during and after its Oct. 7 massacre. Israel has documented extensive instances of rape and sexual assault and has called on the United Nations to take action.'

 

Israel has wanted Palestinians to die for decades.

You can't show that it has anything to do with how many hostages Israel has or Hamas has.

 

Genocide is not a "progressive value".

Stealing the land, bulldozing the homes and orchards of Palestinians living in the country of Palestine is not a "progressive value".

I don't see it as much of a credit to Jewish Israelis that they are solidly behind humanitarian atrocities that bring them the stolen goods of Palestine while devastating that population.

 

So it's clear to me that you stand with the "erase Israel off the map" genicidal Hamas. Interesting because you could travel to Israel and espouse your progressive values comfortably and safely but the side you stand with would kill you if you said the wrong thing.

I don't get why leftists are so drawn to jew haters ...

 

Do NOT be silly like that.

Please to GOD that we behave like thinking adults.

My wife's dearest friend is Jewish. I have close workmates in high tech who are Jews. I took an Arabic language course with a Jew, a Shiite girl and a Sufi Muslim Imam.

We do not each stand for the evils done by members of our own religious beliefs.

And, thinking we have some right to harm each other for what the policies of other countries might be is CRIMINAL. It's illegal in Christianity, in Islam and in Judaism.

 

I am a Democrat of the old school. Back in the day Democrats were more pro Israel than the Republicans,. I have not changed. I still vote Democrat. My support for Israel is unconditional.

 

I don't need to show anything. We - Israelis - are well beyond the point where we care about what other people think, or say.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–...rt of the US,the Taliban kept its commitments.

Bush gave them an additional 3 1/2 months. What else did you want, caviar served on evacuation planes that deliver people to their home towns?

 

The big problem with the Palestinian cause is their ridged religious ideology which dictates that they must hate and kill Jewish people. If they could learn to live in harmony with their Jewish neighbors, many of their problems would have been solved long ago.

Instead they choose to be pawns of the evil leaders of Iran who have far greater goals than killing all of the Jews. Nothing good comes out of the Iranian Government. Its leaders are no different than Hitler and the Nazis.

 

Absurd if they wanted them dead they would be dead.

 

Palestinians keep trying to kill Jews, and get killed by Jews instead.

 

That distinction is debatable and in a lot of ways is merely semantical, but you know what is not debatable and merely semantical as being the topic?....... Trump.

This thread in no manner shape or form can even tangentially be argued to be about Trump and whether or not he attended any 911 funerals.

Yeesh. This is silly.

 

Interesting. So even though Israeli citizens have literally been targeted and bombed daily for decades, you do not believe that their military responses are about defense? That strains credulity to me. Sincerely. That is about as preposterous as it gets in my mind.

What is it do you think is their ultimate goal? Are you trying to say it is genocide? If that is their goal, considering their considerable might, why have they not done so by now? Surely they could do so fairly easily from a military capability standpoint. Not only have they not eliminated Palestinians, but their numbers have grown exponentially over that time period. How do you rationalize away this undeniable reality?