What is it about Jew-Hating that the left finds so alluring?

Prove it

 

That's like saying black South Africans were totally free in 1978 because they had homelands. It is not an independent state with borders. By your definition the US embassy to Israel is in Palestine.

Even South Africa at least respected the homeland ownerships unlike the current Israeli administration.

 

Ever heard about the Oslo Accords? Second Intifada? Olmert's peace plan? Critical thinking skills?

 

Prove that the Palestinians living in Judea and Samaria today are descendants of people who have lived continuously on the same territory for a thousand years.

 

Neither Ashkenazi or palestinians are the original biblical tribes of Israel. They're both interlopers and it's funny listening to the two usurpers talk about which one is legit

 

The following is true for those who are antisemitic, not for all the people on the left, or the right.

The main difference between left-wing antisemitism and right-wing antisemitism is rooted in the ideologically driven stereotypes of the Jew.

The left wing sees the Jew as fundamentally religious, representative of the white European colonial era, a remnant of the past that must be destroyed to create a just world. Only those Jews who renounce their Jewishness - both from a religious and a secular point of view - are accepted by the collective left as good Jews. Jews who strive to keep their nation alive, regardless of their religious or political affiliation, are the bad Jews. Leftist stereotypes include the rich Jew, the cosmopolitan Jew with dual or more loyalties, the white European Jews as oppressors of brown indigenous Middle Easterners, the gentiles-hating Orthodox Jew, and the capitalist Jew. Leftists narratives based on these stereotypes are virulently anti-Israel, anti-Zionist, pro-terror as long as the terror is directed against Jews. The antisemitic left hopes that fear and suffering will drive Jews not only out of Israel but out of their Jewishness as well until the Jewish nation ceases to exist. A final solution to the Jewish problem.

The right wing sees Jews as aliens, fundamentally religious, and representative of enemies of the white race. There are no good Jews. Stereotypes include the plotting Jew, the Christians-hating Jew, the white-hating Jew, the communist Jew, the rich Jew, and the cosmopolitan Jew with dual or more loyalties. Right-wing narratives based on these stereotypes paint an image of sinister all-powerful Jews who secretly run the world. Right-wing antisemites are roughly of two kinds: those who would like to completely eradicate Jews, and those who prefer that Jews move to Israel and fight against another perceived enemy of the white race, the MENA Muslims.

Antisemites hate an imaginary model of the Jew that exists only in their troubled minds. Real-world Jews are at the receiving end of this insane hatred.

 

Aren't you tired of constantly failing to provoke me?

 

Most "real-world" Jewish Americans are liberal.

Pew Research Center surveys, including the 2020 study, show that Jews are among the most consistently liberal and Democratic groups in the U.S. population. Seven-in-ten Jewish adults identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party, and half describe their political views as liberal.​

 

That makes all of the recent Jew hate by the left even MORE strange. Its worse than I thought! They even hate Jews with the same political beliefs. Scary stuff!

 

Jews actually are since they lived cheek by jowl with the Canaanites and intermarried with them before the Assyrians wiped out and displaced the ten northern tribes and associated canaanites in 706BC. The remainder were displaced and or killed by the Babylonians a couple of centuries later and restored to that land by Cyrus the Persian some 80 years later. Around 70AD the Romans scatter much of the population of Palestine about the Roman Empire.

 

The term liberal in this day and age is essentially elastic. Progressives on the other hand are statist pure and simple.

 

My first statement was...

"How would you expect them to respond to the constant drip drip of bombing in addition to the latest escalation? What would be their proper response in your mind?

How can it be reversed? Are you claiming that it is Israel that is targeting civilians?"

Rather than addressing my question of how you expect them to respond, you instead said ...

Clearly you didnt respond to my question of how you expect them to respond/what in your mind would be their proper response to the latest escalation, instead you replied by claiming that the bombing is a response to the settlements, and then bringing in another topic altogether by falsely implying that there is supposed to be some sort of proportianality in response to a weaker enemy.

Do you see how your response avoided my statement and just went into a circular direction? Despite the reality you did not address my point, I responded to your settlement assertion by saying ...

"In my mind, they have expanded their settlements to create a buffer from the nonstop bombs being catapulted. You act as if Israel does not care about needing such tight security which dictates their every move for the last 70 years, but instead they just want the relatively small expansion of territory no matter the response and what they have to do in defense.

That doesnt make sense to me."



-My question is I am looking for a sincere response from you as to what you think would be their proper response both to the drip-drip bombings as well as the latest escalation. I seem to recall you condemning Israel after this escalation prior to them having responded which indicates that your reaction to their response was already baked in the cake. You already knew you opposed their response before they gave one.




-In regards to your position about the settlements being illegal, I will happily address that. As you well know, this is a point of great contention. Israel and the United States say they are not illegal, most of the Middle East and indeed many in the UN claim they are illegal. What is legal and what is not in international law is tenuous at best. It is the winners that determine what is or is not legal, not the losers. I don't think there is any value in litigating 1967 all over again, but it is my understanding these settlements were created following that attack on Israel and they annexed that land to create a security buffer. That makes perfect sense to me. It does create a security buffer. They won that war. To the winner goes the spoils. This is how wars work.

Additionally, I find it hollow for you to wail about settlements being illegal out of one side of your mouth, while excusing away the illegal terrorist killing that they have been targeting at Israeli civilians for decades.





-You seem to be asserting that they are doing all of this so they can have that relatively small increase in land mass, and to me, it is far more logical to believe they are going through all of that trouble for security purposes. The small amount of land is not a prize big enough for all of the trouble they have had in regards to it. Therefore security is the only logical reason for them annexing that land, which takes us back full circle to where this began...How would you expect them to respond both to the drip drip of nonstop bombing for decades and what in your mind would be the proper response to the latest escalation?

 

Rightist crackpots whine about the diverse American electorate who rather be represented than be Republicans.

Jewish Democrats in the House:

Jake Auchincloss, Massachusetts (freshman)
Suzanne Bonamici, Oregon
David Cicilline, Rhode Island
Steve Cohen, Tennessee
Ted Deutch, Florida
Lois Frankel, Florida
Josh Gottheimer, New Jersey
Sara Jacobs, California (freshman)
Andy Levin, Michigan
Mike Levin, California
Alan Lowenthal, California
Elaine Luria, Virginia
Kathy Manning, North Carolina (freshman)
Jerry Nadler, New York
Dean Phillips, Minnesota
Jamie Raskin, Maryland
Jan Schakowsky, Illinois
Adam Schiff, California
Brad Schneider, Illinois
Kim Schrier, Washington
Brad Sherman, California
Elissa Slotkin, Michigan
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Florida
Susan Wild, Pennsylvania
John Yarmuth, Kentucky

Jewish Republicans in the House:

David Kustoff, Tennessee
Lee Zeldin, New York

Jewish senators

All are Democrats, except for Sanders, an Independent who caucuses with Democrats:

 

This just proves Jews are smart and follow the wise advice of Don Corleone "keep your friends close and your enemies closer"

as I sad earlier, the Jews are amazing survivalists

 

You may have explained why rightists vote Republican, but minorities vote for representatives that represent them.

 

Agree 100% but I feel that will change now that the leftist antisemitic agenda has been exposed. It may not though, i mean look how most of the black community still clings to the left like lost puppy dogs, so hey, you could be right

 

Ashkenazi are recent converts (1000ad) to a religion called Judaism. They're not the lineal descendants of the biblical Jews, unlike the Sephardi whom actually are, considering we have documented proof of their travels from Judah and into exile.

 

How should Israel respond to October 7?

1. Call in an independent investigative team.
2. Revoke the visa of all violent Jewish American and British settlers in the west bank.
3. Halt all illegal settlement building.
4. Bulldoze all settlements that contravene international law.
5. Uphold a ceasefire.
6. Negotiate release of all hostages.

 

Nope. That is a myth. Nope some fled to ethiopia some were hauled off and sold into slavery in Europe Ashkenazim are the result of that.

 

Was it not you that brought up the biblical population of Israel and it's relevance? Of course it was. It irks me when the White Jewish Europeans reel out this spiel of how they are the true descendants of biblical Israel, its thinly veiled white supremacist ideas like this that led to the brutal enslavement of millions of black men, women and children in the Americas for 400 years and it was heavily financed by the White Jewish Europeans no less!

Some postulate that the fact that these black men, women and children had their names erased in order to hide their true identity, as the lost tribes of Israel.

 

If you are unable to understand why so many Americans are not attracted to the party of neo-nazis and white evangelical nationalists, that's unfortunate.

Right-Wing Responsible For 71% Of Antisemitic Incidents


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What is a myth?

 

That all or even most of the Jews fled south away from Rome.

 

Judah was taken into exile in Iberia. Also south is the only route away from the invaders btw.

 

The only temple dedicated to YHWH built outside of Israel was in Nubia.