US says Russia has lost 315,000 troops in Ukraine, equivalent to 90% of invading force

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Someone has been feeding you tall tales if you think the war in Ukraine only cost us 40 Billion last year.. but even at that .. is huge money better spent elsewhere.. Zero .. and in fact negative return on investment. . another Smokin Joe foreign policy disaster.
     
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    Trump would have wrapped Ukraine up in a bow for Putin
     
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    Where in the holy hell do you come up with 1.5 million Ukrainian dead. Wishful thinking?
     
  4. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So many ****ing warmongers. Every single conflict we are involved in could be handled diplomatically with a little bit of *******ned leadership from our whitehouse, something we have been sorely lacking in.
     
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    OK, what diplomatic solution was going to prevent Putin from invading Ukraine?
     
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    Oh yeah? And how did that end up working out for the US? If you are going to point to history, tell the whole story.
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes let’s pretend the National debt is not an issue.
     
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    Was Biden did that, perhaps Trump would have as well .. kind of a silly thing to say in any case it is partisan Putinophobia ?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unfortunately for your Wishful thinking .. the number of Ukrainian Dead is estimated around five hundred thousand .. not 1.5 million.. that would be the total casualties .. estimating 2 wounded for every KIA
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well what did you expect the Pentagon to say on that question .. how big a conflict of interest is that . as giving money to Ukraine is feeding the Military Industrial Complex .. what the Pentagon's job is.. Good grief.. I meant the money would be better spent on making things better for ave Joe.. not more War Waste Pit .. on which the downfall of the nation has now come to pass .. in case you hadn't noticed Brother Ark .. then time to open eye .. and rook out :)
     
  11. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    OMG !

    You mean.... that it gives jobs to Americans?

    The average Joe can only benefit from Putin winning the war and threatening our allies in Europe.

    It's obvious.
     
  12. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Debt is only an issue when a democrat is in power.

    When it's a good Republican, like Trump, he can add 40% to the debt without people like you saying a word.

    By the way, 40% is a peacetime record.

    Biden has increased it by 10% in the last 3 years.
     
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    Do you know how to answer a question? Because you epically failed by merely repeating yourself.

    And the question was not hard. Try again, take your time, and actually answer it this time
     
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    Obvious to you perhaps .. but where are you getting this Putin is threatening our allies in Europe trope from ? pandering the "Russia Russia" Prog Blue propaganda trope ?

    You can play duck and cover if you like .. but I would be more worried about Israel using a Nuke than Brother Vlad.. who's had Biden over a Barrel .. made the US look weak and stupid .. took a big notch out of the unipolar order. .. yet somehow you think this is a good thing for Ave Joe. Give you one thing though .. a Fiscal Conservative you are not ..
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I told you your question had the wrong figure .. was 0.5 million killed not 1.5 million.
     
  16. Arkanis

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    Do you think it's a coincidence that Finland and Sweden applied for NATO membership in a hurry immediately after Putin invaded Ukraine?
     
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    For some reason people seem to need reminding from time to time of an important fact. 315,000 casualties is not the same thing a 315,000 soldiers no longer able to fight. As far as I can recall the most common number I've seen for Russian KIA since the invasion of Ukraine proper is 75,000 plus. That leaves 250,000 or so casualties, a figure that by default includes soldiers injured due to accidents and illness not just combat wounds and the majority of those soldiers can and will be recycled back into combat once they recovered (whether they like it or not) because Russian needs every solider with combat experience it can get.
     
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    FREE CASH GIVE AWAY........
     
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    Yes. Ukraine has lost 30 000, which is nowhere near the 500 000 the other poster claims.
     
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  20. Bob Newhart

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    Not really happy with this. But unfortunately a lot of racist bigots seem to think no one but the U.S. master race can use an f-35. Early air superiority would have ended this much sooner. Now, I'm not sure if it matters.

    Unless the Ukainians are especially ingenious, there will be a long slog to victory. Lots of lives on both sides could have been saved but Biden is either incompetent or a bit of a butcher. There will be at least 200,000 more lives lot on the Russian side I believe. Ukrainian losses will be at least 6 figures in the end if it is not already there. The Ukrainian civilian losses in the occupied territories have yet to be counted.

    And no, peace negotiations are a load of crap. All you're asking for is another war. Russia or Ukraine has to decide to give up. If someone else makes the decision, expect another war.
     
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    Hmm.....well its too bad US has engaged in dozens of wars including WW2 when they could have just used diplomacy.
     
  22. Josh77

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    the one where NATO stopped expanding after the USSR fell, like we told them we would.
     
  23. Nwolfe35

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    Yes, the one where we told them that NATO would stop expanding and then Russia proceeds to: Russia annexed the Crimea, backed separatist factions in Ukraine, Russia invaded Georgia, Russia interfered with our election in 2016, Russia has carried out assassinations on foreign soil.

    THOSE are the people that we should avoid pissing off by expanding NATO?
     
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    Thats what Russia is doing atm. An overaged country with a small cohort of young people wasting their young men in a shredder. Its madness, but they do it.
     
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    Which is maybe because hundred of billions of dollars is a ridiculous claim.
     

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