US says Russia has lost 315,000 troops in Ukraine, equivalent to 90% of invading force

How should we explain something to you if your whole set of information is based on fake news?

 

If Russia wins it will be because of primitive propaganda by gangsters trick every ideologue. Its so obvious Russian propaganda changes the narrative and the framing depending on which group they are adressing. They can feed the BLM activist with fake news about White violence against Blacks with their troll factories, the same factories will feed anti-woke acitivists with thousands of made up rapes by Black men, they can remind left-authoritarian regimes of the good old SU times, they can make right-wing dictators believe it will free the world of LGBTQ-nonsense, they can manipulate Islamists that Russian-Orthodox people are on their side, they can convince anti-Islamists they are a defender of the world against radical Islam.

And they can convince American conservatives they are their ally, while they are in the meanwhile a 100% Chinese vessel, which the Americans will face when the chips are down. No doubt that if it comes to an invasion of Taiwan, Russia will stand in line to attack somewhere else and try to overstrech American forces.

Best example were the Brazil elections. Russia sold successfully Bolsonaro the story they are on his side, when he was in charge, putting all the leftists, LGBTQ-acitivists, commies etc. in their places; afterwards they sold Lula the story of the progressive and woke anti-imperialist that defends the world from US-imperialism.

Ideologues have a defect of reason. I think an ideologue with book knowledge which will make him pass an IQ test with 180 points will loose every negotiation against a primitive criminal with an IQ of 75 ---

I myself am rather on the political right, at least against woko-haram, but cannot believe how so many people are so incredibly stupid to believe Putin is leading this war to fix their problems, how can people be so ...

However if you are pointing with your finger at the conservatives, you realize that so called progressives like the squad are just as useful Putin allies for him as the conservatives on the right? They will always side with Chinese or Russian puppet states.

 

Conservatives alone want to discontinue support for Ukraine.

 

Really? I get my information from the DOD, JSOC and SOCOM.
Tell us, where do you get yours.

 

So AMERICA needs to negotiate a deal?
What about the country that was actually invaded? Do they get a seat at the negotiation table?

 

Chamberlain tried appeasement, and it didn't end well.

From Congressional hearing from US intelligence, which includes military intelligence. Can you quote your sources?

 

question still applies. Where. The. Hell. Are. You. Getting. Your. Numbers?

Get it now? Need me to go slower???

 

The framing might be different, but of course all the calls to directly negotiate with Putin over the Ukraine, making an armistice ist of course support in favour of Putin.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ar-ayanna-pressley-open-letter-russia-ukraine

The **** talk aside thats a call for forcing the Ukraine to give up territory, give Russia the opportunity to recover in a few years of armistice and start the next time better prepared is of course in favour of Russia.

 

This 'de-classified' report -- with no named source -- came out just as Zelenskyy was back over here begging for even more billions of dollars than he's been given already. What a coincidence!
Link: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-in...t-russia-315000-casualties-source-2023-12-12/

Well, no matter how you 'slice-and-dice it', in 2023, Ukraine never did launch its much-anticipated "Spring Offensive", and the two breakaway Ukrainian provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk remain completely 'broken-away'....

Meanwhile, here's an unbiased breakout of what we've given Ukraine already since this war began --
Link: https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts

But, the claim is that Russia has lost 315,000 military personnel in Ukraine since Feb. 2022? And this information is coming from essentially the same 'men-in-black' who leaked it out beginning in April 2022 that Putin had cancer (or Parkinson's disease, or whatever) and would be dead in six months! Uh, OK.... Anyway, back to the Russian casualties... reflect for a moment that during all of World War II, in both Europe and the Pacific, American military deaths in combat were calculated at 407,000.

Based on all this information, 'anonymous sources' that I'm familiar with ( ) offer this rosy scenario: All we have to do is go on giving Zelenskyy billions and billions more dollars, and in just a few more years Russia will be almost DEPOPULATED because Putin's going to get them all killed fighting in Ukraine!

. "Good work, son! Soon there won't even BE a Russia... right?!"

 

Uh, yeah? It sure would have spared a lot of people a lot of heartache.

 

How is keeping your diplomatic promises appeasement?

 

Dead in six months? Did US Intelligence actually say that in Congress? This was a Congressional hearing and if they lied, they committed perjury.

 

From Doug of Course .. now that you have corrected yourself .. and others but Colonel MacGregor seems to have his finger on the pulse. Where do you get your Ukraine KIA numbers from ?

"Get it now ? Need me to go slower???" - you can now answer the question you posed .. I have

 

As you made your claims how about you give your source which verifies that Ukraine's losses are twice of the Russian losses?

 

No they didn't say that in Congress because they would have been asked, flat-out, for proof... and there wasn't any, and still isn't any. The usual (and much easier) method is to simply spread rumors, distortions of rumors, half-truths, and other "FUD" (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) in order to demoralize opponents.

A couple of months after the Ukraine war started looked like a good time to 'jolly everybody along' by spreading around the earthshaking revelation that Putin was mortally ill and wouldn't be around by the end 2022....

."The biggest surprise may be in how many Americans I will out-live...."

 

Well, in that case I'm not sure how it compares when this hearing WAS in Congress.

 

any number of reasons .. the question is not whether or not Russia is a Threat .. but the silly idea that Putin has been Threatening expansion to nations outside Ukraine .. lest they themselves become a threat .. which is why it is no coincidence.

 

If you believe this... then you'll believe just about anything. There are allot of US "foreign fighters" over there fighting without flag on their uniform. It was just last week where the DOJ accused Russia of war crimes against such fighters.

 

Whine all you want............. Republican Lindsey Graham states its on 5 % of the Defense budget

A good bang for the Buck !

A weakened Russia with no American Lives Lost

Awesome

 

Mercenaries are there by choice, so that's on them. They do it for money. Heck, there were Americans fighting even in Rhodesia, which became Zimbabwe.

If we can weaken Russia for 5%, then its a bargain. Romney said the same thing as a matter of fact.

 

OK, I wanted to see this declassified report for myself, so I googled "declassified US intelligence report citing russian casualties in Ukraine". I found over two dozen links to all kinds of news media sources with the same story, but no declassified report! How did whoever the unnamed author is who wrote this report arrive at a total 315,000 Russian casualties? Does anyone have a link to the text of the actual declassified report itself?!

Hey, if 315,000 Russian soldiers were killed or wounded in Ukraine, that's OK with me, but it struck me that this was one hell of a lot of casualties -- especially when accumulated in just over a year and a half by the Russian military, from a country that has a population of less than 145 million people (Russia!) -- which has less than half the population of the United States!

 

I dont think an "author" came up with the number, - US intelligence did and shared the info with the US Congress. Why would they post the actual text in the internet?

 

My information comes from my US military clients who are in Ukraine.
Including Ukrainians who purchase from us and come here for orders.
All I can tell you is you heard it here first before the prepared media excuses start as to why Ukraine lost.
Congress isn't going to hand over any more money to Ukraine as they have in the past with no accountability.
They have requested a series of battle plans that insures Ukraine's success. Which is why Zelenski walked away.

No longer will we be providing billions blindly at this point and while the media and their followers start the finger pointing routine, we have provided 117 billion already and they want 61 billion more. Their problem is they don't have enough bodies to do the task.

At this point its just a matter of attrition while Russia is sitting on 800K troops.

 

Point being, the statement was inaccurate. I would also contend that the US has vast contracts with private military firms that are sending these mercenaries into these conflicts. Iraq and Afghanistan should tell you exactly how the US military operates. Private military contractors do not have to operate under the same ROE as US servicemen.

Who are the private contractors fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan? An inside look at this invisible military force

 

The mercenaries are not there on behalf of the US, or funded by the US, so they are nothing like the contractors we had in Iraq and Afghanistan. These guys are on their own.