Maine strips Trump from the ballot, inflaming legal war over his candidacy

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    If he was charged with it and managed to delay his trial long enough, could they keep him off then?
     
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    Which laws are being made or enforced?
     
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    That would be false.... There have been zero charged with insurrection.
     
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    LoL

    Jesus.

    Anyone who takes part in an insurrection is a seditionist.
     
  5. Arkanis

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    To fill any office.
     
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    None of which have been charged with US Code 18 2383 Rebellion or insurrection. Want to try and again on how many have been charged with insurrection? I'll help you. It's zero have been charged with insurrection.
     
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    OK, I'll rephrase my inquiry... "Will someone help me to recall when Donald Trump was charged with the crime of having been "engaged" in insurrection and found guilty of having been thus "engaged", in a court of law...?"

    I've already despaired of trying to get anyone to focus on what exactly an "insurrection" is, so, now I'm wondering if anyone really has a concept of what it means from a legal standpoint to be "engaged" in an insurrection....

    Is it this? (Try that in anything other than a 'kangaroo-court' :roll: )

    [​IMG]. "Follow me now, folks, and let's shoot all the damn Democrats!":roflol:
     
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  8. Bearack

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    No one has been charged under 18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

    This is merely a fact. Trump hasn't been charged with neither US Code 2383 or 2384.
     
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    That is false. It's two different charges mate. You can be charged with both or one or the other... but no charge, nor convictions of insurrection has been issued to date.
     
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    You know, you’re right: Trump only incited people to commit Insurrection with his buddies in the Proud Boys.

    So you’re giving him a pass for that ?
    Good to know .


    se·di·tion
    /səˈdiSHən/
    noun
    1. conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.
     
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    Thank you! Now I can embellish my above-question by asking everyone when Trump was charged with, and convicted of having committed the crime of sedition! (Oh, this just gets better and better....)
     
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    Other than a Finding by a sitting judge that he aided in an insurrection , I don’t recall any convictions for sedition.
     
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    I'm not giving anyone a pass... However, January 6th was a 3 hour protest that turned into a riot. It was the farthest thing from an insurrection, hence not one person has been charged nor convicted of insurrection. That is once again an empirical fact.

    Could you also point to the part of Trumps speech that incited people to rebel against the authority of the state? Was is this part that has your panties in a wad?



    The sedition charges I also find to be extremely suspect...
     
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    What were the rioters aiming to achieve?
     
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    A lot of folks on this site say no conviction is needed. But that doesn’t sit well with me. It’s like sending someone to prison without a trial and conviction. The DOJ has 91 indictments of Trump, none of those charges are for insurrection. Apparently, the DOJ doesn’t think or doesn’t have enough evidence to charge Trump with insurrection.

    One thing none of us have thought of, what if the SCOTUS thinks ruling on all of this is toomuch of a political hot potatol to accept the case? Let each state determine whether Trump will be on their ballot or not. The constitution basically lets each state determine their ballot access, who qualifies, who doesn't and how. Far as I know, each state gives both major parties automatic ballot access, but makes independents and third parties jump though a million hoops to get on the ballot. Those hoops and requirements vary greatly from one state to another. If Trump were to gain the GOP nomination, could Colorado and Maine refuse him ballot access, remove the automatic ballot access for one party but not the other? That certainly would smell like election rigging. Just something to think about.
     
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    Where does the 14th Amendment say it's or "any" office? Sounds like we're making stuff up.
     
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    only if they do not vote Democrat
     
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    Nothing. Just idiots!!! What were all the BLM and ANTIFA rioters achieving, while burning police stations and robbing entire city blocks all across the country? That was the point. No point.

    On 1/6, a mostly insignificant portion of them became violent and a whole bunch of others followed crowds into the capital and didn't really do a damn thing except walk around and take pictures. Seriously we have the video. The place wasn't wrecked. It was mostly damage at certain entrance points, while others were OPENED by the police themselves letting people quite calmly walk right in. People see the same looped video clip or a couple images from different angles thinking that was everyone. It wasn't. IDIOTS. But mostly non violent idiots. I won't defend their stupidity, but I won't claim its something it wasn't.
     
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    You're in denial.

    Trump said MAGA had to fight to stop Pence from certifying the vote.

    Which is illegal.

    And that's why so many have been convicted of sedition.
     
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    The lower court judge in Colorado found he engaged in insurrection.

    Your picture and quote really isn’t funny. :wtf:
     
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    No one has. Just stop it already. Aren't you tired?
     
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    Biden can just have his VP pick the winner per MAGA Republicans
     
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    It started as a mere protest.... It was peaceful initially and then Capital police started shelling the protestors, well before there was even an attempt to enter the capital. New video evidence confirms this. Then there were the instigators... which now it's fairly evident that many of the instigators were either federal agents or assets of federal actors.



    [​IMG]

    ↑ This guy, which was actually committing sedition wasn't charged until just recently.. You know what his charge was??? He was charge with 1 count of disorderly conduct in September of this year... He won't see any prison time and gets a slap on the wrist... of course only because so many people were chanting about this fed... they had to make it look "good" when in actuality.. they showed how scripted this whole charade was.

    Report: Capitol Police incited Jan. 6 crowd by firing flash bangs, tear gas
     
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    Yeah, we’re tired of tRaitor tRump’s big lie that the election was stolen. And all the other lies being told to support it.
     
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    I didn't ask you how the riot went.

    I asked what the MAGA's objective was?
     

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