Ohio senate overrides governor and blocks trans youth from receiving care

Why can't they just wear a dress like Bruce Jenner does and move on?

 

rates of past-year suicidal ideation were still high—as compared to the general population—even among study participants who reported having access to gender-affirming hormones.

 

It takes a really mentally twisted person to support allowing children to mutilate themselves or take drugs that affirms their mental health issues.

 

Call the mutilation whatever you wish. Hopefully other states follow suite soon.

They have to find their own way to get through struggles. Life is tough, chopping off body parts doesnt help.

rates of past-year suicidal ideation were still high—as compared to the general population—even among study participants who reported having access to gender-affirming hormones.

 

Jenner both socially and medically transitioned.

If you are sincere in your question about why can’t they just “put on a dress and move on” I will be happy to explain it to you as it has been explained to me.

 

Have you EVER come up with a link to back any of your BS up?? Asking for a friend...

Wouldn't it be a BETTER idea to try and find ways to reduce those rates??

 

But they were lower than individuals with no access to treatment. That’s my point.

If it increased after transitioning then I would support banning it. But it doesn’t. And you telling a suicidal person to **** and deal with it still results in a dead person.

But that is the point, isn’t it?

 

Still waiting for your answer on why you deny happiness for 15 year olds. Answer my question first and ill answer yours. All though we both know why you dont want to answer.

 

I have no problem with an age limit for irreversible surgery... For something like this, I think it should be lower than 18.... I could probably be talked into 14 by medical professionals.

Go...

 

Which part do you want a link for

 

Didn't ask for a specific part.... just want to know while you don't as a general rule... and we all know why you don't.

 

Because i already have countless times. Give me what you want backed up with a link and i will provide it.


Also to be clear, the only difference in what you think vs the OP is age 16 vs 18 on drug and body mutilation. Thats it. You support the sports legislation and the hormone/body chop. Only difference is you think 16 vs 18.

 

It’s almost like this is something medical professionals should consult with medical organizations and their patients on. Like all healthcare. But we know, Republicans can never allow that.

That they are framing this under the guise of protecting anyone while simultaneously telling suicidal children they just need to shut up and get over it…

Such a fascinatingly disgusting ideology.

 

You dont seem to realize he agrees with everything in the OP , but thinks 16 should be the cut off instead of 18. Thats the only difference.
I get you are looking for an supporter in this thread , but his only difference is 2 years.

 

I would like a link to how allowing hormone therapy for minors leads to worse outcomes than telling them to “deal with it”.

 

I'm with whatever medical professionals determine is the best treatment for their patients, generally with parental approval under 16.

I think it's ridiculous to pair any part of that issue with sports in the same bill....

 

14 to 16 is the cut off for most medical organizations and doctors.

What’s interesting is that you think me saying we should listen to doctors is me being a supporter of anything.

 

Thats not what you said earlier. So as long as a parent supports it, ok for a 9 year old to chop off penis or breast if a girl?

 

If a medical professional determines it is proper treatment for that patient (and none do in your made up scenario), why not?

 

Strange. Ok thanks for answering. Plastic surgeons will operate on someone till they look like puddy but i guess they are your moral compass of whats right and wrong.

 

You're right, Jenner did go through with it.

As for the second part of your post, I'd rather not know.

 

Better than politcians... Every day of the week....

Doctors take oaths to first do no harm.... These politicians have essentially done the opposite...

 

It’s sad — I’ve had two explain it to me from their perspective, both stories were almost identical. One a mtf and the other a ftm. One straight us says he wouldn’t be around today if his aunt didn’t intervene and convince his mother to allow hormone therapy.

Do you think telling someone that is suicidal / mentally ill that they need to “shut up and accept life is hard” is a good policy like your compassionate compatriot?

 

And doctors have to follow licensing and medical boards — as well as continuing education and professional development.

Our politicians just have to lie the best

 

Perhaps it's better to go to mental health experts for guidance than to allow politicians with no credentials in the subject matter to dictate these decisions. Look, I'm not going to say I know what the best course of action for these trans youths is, but what I will say is priority #1 ought to be the well being of these kids, above anything else. We all want what is best for them, but we can't come to any logical decisions for their health based on gut feelings alone. We need to go to health experts for guidance, not politicians.