Ohio senate overrides governor and blocks trans youth from receiving care

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  1. Oldyoungin

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    Ohio’s state senate has voted to override the governor Mike DeWine’s veto of a bill that bans transgender minors from receiving gender-affirming care, and their ability to play on sports teams, on Wednesday.

    The bill, HB68, prohibits doctors from providing gender-affirming care – such as puberty blockers, hormone therapy or surgeries – to trans youths. It also blocks transgender female student athletes from participating on girls’ sports teams.

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    Well done Ohio. Seems crazy its something even debatable. Hopefully other states follow soon.
     
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    Well, the cruelty IS the point....

    I'm fully for preventing trans girls from playing girls sports, but to pair that with intentionally ruining the lives of different kids, and their parents, is of course, ridiculous.
     
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    So not allowing children to remove their breast and/or genitals, or taking non reversible hormone drugs until they are 18 is ruining their lives?
     
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    Yes, it's potentially ruining their lives... Congrats on that... Human tears are currency for MAGA

    I'm also against surgerys under 16 (not 18 - which aren't even a thing, BTW), but the drugs most take are fully reversible... so says the Governor, who actually TALKED to the people affected by this...

    This bill will likely be struck down in the courts, as many already have.
     
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    They don’t care that treatments have been shown to have extremely low levels of regret going into adulthood and lower the suicide rate.

    Or maybe that’s the point.

    I guess it makes sense coming from the same people screaming a 12 year old girl should be forced to have her rapists child.

    Republicans and their “small government”.
     
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    Its definitely a thing and i can show the data for the millionth time here. Drugs are absolutely not reversible, lol. We go through puberty once.
     
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    You can support child mutilation, state of Ohio doesnt. I guess it makes sense from the same people screaming for 9 month abortions.
     
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    False equivalency noted.

    There are other methods of treatment besides surgical intervention. I don’t expect much but I do ask for a loose understanding of the subject matter.

    And 9 month old abortions are almost always medically necessary. So yea, I 100% support them when they are unfortunately needed. No surprise you don’t.
     
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    Right back at ya.

    Body mutilation is not reversible. Puberty is a one time event. I dont expect much but i do ask for a loose understanding of hormones and body mutilation.
     
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    had to unblock to see which ....
     
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    Now it’s just ironic lol

    Again, the only one that is speaking of bodily mutilation is you. Would you care to tell us what type of bodily mutilation occurs with hormone therapy?
     
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    Don’t forget to reblock :)
     
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    I dont think you know what ironic means.

    Body mutilation of children is when they remove breast and reproductive parts. Hormone therapy is when they **** with the puberty and development of children. Did you read the article?
     
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    I wish that was the only word you had issues with.

    And again, this is why a cursory knowledge of the subject is so important, hormone replacement therapy is the most widely used form or gender affirming medical care in minors — not surgery — this bill bans that.

    Second time asking, what mutilation occurs with hormone therapy?

    Why should politicians be able to override decisions made by a patient, their guardians as well as the doctors and medical professional organizations?
     
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    Never fails to amaze me the people who get their jollies out of trying to deny others the relative happiness** they are unable to find on their own

    ** mentioned directly in the Constitution they also don't care about

    I think part of it is the failure to admit their all powerful God makes the occasional boo-boo....
     
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    They always simply take it past the point of reasonably to the point of cruelty. Same with abortion.

    I guess it says a ton about their political ideology
     
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    I wish you knew what ironic meant.

    Body mutilation and hormone therapy are two different methods to abuse children. Both blocked now in ohio. If you read the article and had a bit of cursory knowledge, you wouldnt have to ask me the difference between hormone therapy and body mutilation. If you clicked the link, it would explain this to you.

    Politicans have to step in because the adults in the children's lives are abusers and have failed them. Im guessing you dont support CPS too since the parents are always right. Thankgod we still have people (ohio supreme court) interested in protecting children from their abusers.
     
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    Yet you are trying to deny 15 year olds, by your own admission, that happiness. Why?
     
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    Oh no, whatever will I do if I have to grow the F up and learn to live with my body like an adult until I actually am an adult and can do whatever I want. The horror.
     
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    They would rather push agenda then look at the reality.

    I guess it says a ton about their political ideology.
     
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    Yes, you already indicated that.

    And I am asking you about part of this bill — the part you seem not to want to address so you keep jumping to only part of the bill.

    More irony

    I won’t even bother to ask it a third time, the inability to answer is answer enough.

    If you “protect” a child from “abuse” and they kill themselves, did you actually protect them?
     
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    And it can be reduced
    New Study Shows Transgender People Who Access Gender-Affirming Hormones During Adolescence Are Significantly Less Likely To Experience Psychological Distress Or Suicidal Ideation
    https://fenwayhealth.org/new-study-...-psychological-distress-or-suicidal-ideation/
     
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    The wish remains

    Read the article if you still dont understand the difference between the abuse methods.

    If you chop off a boys breast, and he kills himself, did you really protect him?
     
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    If by agenda you mean items that have been shown to reduce said suicidal behavior, absolutely.

    How does your method of just banning everything help them get through their struggles?
     
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