Predictions: The 2024 U.S. Presidential Election.

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    I don't remember that. I have always believed that he might resign because he was told to resign, not because he wanted to resign. I thought the DNC might put in a new candidate for the primaries. That appears not to be the case. Therefore I think it will happen at the dem convention.
     
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    Joe Biden was not even on the ballot in NH , yet he won 63% of the vote.

    And you “think” DNC will replace him with someone Trump and GOP can call “ communist”.

    Yea, nice wishes.
     
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    Assuming Biden lasts until November...
    Ummmm, it's not that simple. While most four year (and more) college graduates will vote for Biden (although even the four year category isn't exactly the slam dunk that it once was), most two year graduates (or "some college") will vote for Trump.

    Wrong. They will vote for Trump.

    You might be surprised at how many support Trump.

    Again, you might be surprised at how many support Trump.

    ... will still overwhelmingly vote for Biden, but by a very significantly lesser margin than prior years.

    ... will probably (overall) actually vote for Trump by a narrow margin. Even approaching a 50/50 margin is already a gain for Trump.

    ... will still mostly vote for Biden.

    Correct.

    You'd be surprised at how many of those people will be voting for Biden.

    Times are changing, dude. MAGA is a much younger, much more diverse coalition. While Republicans don't have that coalition on their own, they do have it with MAGA (especially with Trump at the helm).
     
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    Biden is, believe it or not, the best candidate that they have atm or else they would have already replaced him with someone else. Of course, he still might not even make it to November anyway.
     
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    Haley was done before it even began.

    How, exactly, is she going to keep Trump under the number of delegates needed to win the nomination?

    Remember, most of the remaining States are not straight up proportional allocation like IA and NH were. Trump, at current polling numbers, will be receiving all of CA's massive delegate count, almost or all of TX's massive delegate count, and I suppose all (or most all) of FL's massive delegate count as well. Trump might already have it officially wrapped up by Super Tuesday.............
     
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    I predict senile Joe will have a major mental incident before or during the convention and he will be replaced
     
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    The main issue is whether Trump is convicted or succumbs to a thousand legal cuts and loses too much of the independents. while these constant legal arrows shot at him don't impact his supporters, those who are mainly willing to vote for Trump as the lesser of two awful choices, may well stay home or vote for Biden if Trump is a convict
     
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    No, there are plenty of good candidates. We just don't know who they are but the DNC does. Manchin is a sensible democrat as an example with a very positive record as governor of WV. Kennedy is also a sensible democrat with sensible policy opinions but without the experience. Beshear, governor of Kentucky is popular so he must be doing some good things. Same with CT governor LaMont. I would be astounded it Biden is on the November ballot. The DNC is good at politics. They certainly see the writing on the wall.
     
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    Only 63% for an incumbent against unknowns? Lovely and there was no primary so it didn't count. Most people who tell me what I think have no idea what I think. You are no exception.
     
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    Quite plausible.

    I'd say that he's already been having major mental incidents, but if his handlers eventually want him to be replaced, then they'll eventually stop pretending about his mental state. That's a huge problem in today's world; the level of pretending that goes on.
     
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    It is unfortunately a common belief that a single vote is insignificant and makes no difference, but as a democracy exists to represent EVERY individual, it is important that ALL citizens vote in order to ensure a TRUE majority rule. As individuals we are at the bottom of the chain of command, but COLLECTIVELY, WE RULE. Total participation is necessary to preserve freedom as we know it.
     
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    My suspicion is that he might eventually get falsely convicted in some leftist kangaroo court (outside of the other lawfare BS that's meant to drain him of funding and time for campaigning). I'm still casting my vote for him regardless.

    That's the sad state of our country right now... a weaponized legal system (lawfare) to go along with the weaponized government agencies (OSHA, DOT, DOE, FBI, etc)... Given all this, I'm wholeheartedly supporting Trump because Trump is currently withstanding this onslaught in place of me atm, but after him, they will come after me too, and who is going to want to rise up and run for President against the corrupt system after seeing everything that Trump has currently chosen to go through for the sake of this nation?

    I think that he's doing rather well with independents atm.

    ... yet ...

    That'll be the media play if Dems can get a kangaroo court conviction against him. "Are you SERIOUSLY going to vote for a CONVICT?" blah blah blah

    HELL yes I am!

    I'd personally frame casting a vote for Trump not as a "lesser of two awful choices" but rather as a vote against the Democrat persecution of political opponents, Democrat weaponization of government agencies and legal systems, and Democrat 'green new scam' policies that will be rammed down everyone's throats via weaponized government agencies and legal systems. Oh, and don't forget about their plans for a central bank digital currency. "Sorry, but you made a donation to a conservative group. You can't access your bank account for a week". "Sorry, but you've already bought your allotment of 5lbs of hamburger for the year." "Sorry, but you've already went on your one flight for the year." Etc etc...

    With all of that stuff at stake, I simply cannot fathom the thought process of anyone who agrees with me re: the aforementioned dangers yet refuses to cast a vote for Trump due to some personality issue of his or some bogus court conviction.
     
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    You perfectly express the moral bankruptcy of the Republicans.

    Do you have children?

    You can explain to them that you can become President even if you're a criminal.

    A great life lesson.
     
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    Trump had the documents
    Trump was not authorized to have the documents
    Trump refused to return the documents.

    Tell me how these facts, in your head, add up to "kangaroo court".
     
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    Preserving democracy is the 4th most important issue for liberal and moderate voters.

    This corresponds to 65% of Independents.

    Still, it's incredible that this is the case, since the US has been one for 250 years.

    All it took was one 4-year term for a man with an autocratic agenda to make democracy the #1 issue.

    So, my prediction is that the majority of voters will block the MAGA minority who want an autocrat in power to advance their political agenda.
     
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    Predictions?

    Trump will win - but get confused, and have fake elector slates sent to VP Harris claiming Biden won, and Harris will laugh her ass off and accept the fake elector
    slates. Biden becomes President.
     
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    Pretty sure that would be illegal for Harris to do.
     
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    You are right, I have no idea what you are thinking. Same thing apply to you too- you have no idea if joe Biden wants to resign or drop off. So when you say “ Joe Biden will not be DNC nominee” it is no more accurate then if I tell you what you are thinking.
     
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    And all of these "predictions" are before the inevitable criminal convictions of Trump start rolling in.

    Saying you will vote for Trump is a lot different than saying you will vote for a convicted felon.
     
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    You know that. I know that. But Trump is claiming it was legal.
     
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    remind me which party's prosecutors and judges are letting real criminals back on the streets. the criminals that rape, maim and kill innocents.
     
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    Crime and murder rates are down since Biden took office.
     
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    that's because there was a spike due to covid.
     
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    Biden polls the best out of a number of names thrown around. That's why they haven't replaced him yet.

    Senator of WV, but yes I suppose he's maybe not quite as bad as the rest of 'em at face value. However, I believe that to be an act... a part of the Uniparty reindeer games.

    ... unfortunately he decided to run as an independent instead of running directly against Biden, so he'll have a heck of a time even getting ON ballots. He's fairly sensible on a number of things, but fairly unreasonable on a number of others, namely on guns and on the green new scam.

    Poor wording, imo, but I get the gist of it. Unfortunately, popularity as a state governor doesn't translate to popularity as a presidential candidate. State level politics and national level politics are two completely different animals, especially in a state like Kentucky. If Beshear were to be running against Trump, Kentucky would still overwhelmingly vote for Trump. How do I know?? Because, for instance, Mitt Romney didn't win Massachusetts when he ran for President.

    I don't know anything about him or his policies, unfortunately.

    At first I felt that way, but now I think that they don't really have any other viable options but to keep Biden on the ballot. I now believe that the initial plan was to allow DeSantis to win, which would've retained the status quo while allowing Biden to slither away into the sunset. However, that plan failed, as did the Haley backup plan, so now Dems are left with trying to decide what to do for a candidate in order to retain the status quo against the MAGA uprising. Atm they have nothing. I think Newsom is a consideration, but he is a coastal elite with a "working class, Middle America" problem. That's why they're currently sticking with the "Scranton boy" (when's the last time that he's ever spent any considerable amount of time in Scranton or had a real job in Scranton?) Anyway, they got nothing, so they're going to be VERY desperate. Even the weaponized legal system (lawfare) isn't getting the desired results, so I wouldn't put it past the Dems to bring back the 2020 "Summer of Love", this time likely relating to "Palestine" and/or the illegal invaders who have been flooding into this country. Look for some sort of "I can't believe they just did that" moment from Dems during late 2024.

    That they are, and that they can.
     
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